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[Sheap]

Looks like Arco's god was slain in that battle...

[FAJ]

Ok, is this game updated/patched? What version is the host running?

I just got a battle message that said I lost a battle, being beaten by the defenders; killing about 95% of their troops and a commander while loseing about 30% of mine and a commander.
When I watch the replay, The enemy routs and I win the battle (by a pretty decent margin), and the commander that is reported dead is clearly alive and well.
But, the commander, after the battle, is actually dead, and the province was not taken.

This is confusing and frustrating.

I am using v3.01. What could be so different in the two versions that would change a large victory for me, to a loss for me, with the loss of my most powerful commander?

[Sheap]

This game is still running on 3.00. It's a bad idea to upgrade a 3.00 game to 3.01 because the Hunter of Heroes doom horror will appear and kill everyone in the hall of fame. Once 3.02 comes out this bug should go away and the everyone can patch. New games can safely start on 3.01 by using a mod to eliminate the Hunter of Heroes.

If the server and client use different versions the battle replay will not match the results exactly. It is usually close, but... sometimes not. This is the only problem resulting from mixing versions.

In the meantime I recommend you install two versions of the game, one 3.00, and one 3.01, and you use each one to play games running on that version of server.

[FAJ]

But what is so different about the versions that would cause such a huge difference in the outcome?

[Sheap]

My understanding:
The game doesn't send the whole battle, just the initial setup. The results are actually computed by the client. But, different versions have different random number seeds, so the results come out different even though the algorithm is the same.

[Ironhawk]

Tons of things. Maybe some weapon or armor was tweaked. Or Spell AI. Or morale. Or several of those together. There are too many things to count that could drastically effect the outcome of a replay when compounded over multiple combat rounds.

The key thing to remember is that this is just a battle *replay* inconsistency tho. Not a problem with turn generation. Its annoying but it won't alter your gameplay.

[FAJ]

I reinstalled at 3.00. Apparantly, my Commander got killed because when My army routed (for apparantly no reason) he was too fatigued to run. He was fatigued because he cast blade wind. He died with earth gems on his person. That dumb bastard would rather die than use his earth gems to reduce fatigue. I gave them to him FOR the purpose of reducing fatigue. How can I get them to USE the gems?

[Sheap]

Most people complain that their mages use too MANY gems to reduce fatigue...

Unfortunately there is no way to control what your mages use their gems for. In dom2, they would use more gems if it would keep them from going over 100 fatigue, but if they would go over 100 fatigue anyway, they would not use gems unless necessary to keep them from going over 200. No mage would ever voluntarily go over 200 although sometimes it would happen anyway (communion slaves with more than one master). There's also a limit to using gems for fatigue reduction, the math of which I no longer remember.

Unfortunately, sleeping mages left behind on a losing battlefield is just one of the hazards of dominions combat...

[FrankTrollman]

Sheap said:
Looks like Arco's god was slain in that battle...

Yep. With Arco's god dead and cursed, we can really get ready to research properly.

The Great Catsby has Spoken.

[Sheap]

The server will be rebooted tomorrow morning shortly after the turn generation (or earlier, if everyone plays their turn today). This will result in a brief outage of around 10 minutes.