Bah I Give Up

[Possum]

Atro - Far Cry? You actually liked that game? No offense intended, bro, but are you not usually an FPS gamer? By which I mean, are you not comparing it to the Quake series, or HL1?

Back on topic - you shouldn't have to play a mod to make the game work. Admittedly, part of this is personal prejudice. I don't like other people's mods. Sorry, no offense intended, but every SE4 mod I have ever tried has had something about it that strongly put me off. That's not to say they weren't good mods, just that they didn't appeal to me personally.

And I'm torn here. Yes, I have been a nay-sayer from the get go. And yes, I have taken some flak for that. So naturally there is a sense of vindication in now hearing even the hard-core loyalists express some disillusionment. OTOH, I have never wished the game to fail. Au contraire, I just wanted the ****ing thing to work.

I don't want the game to flop, just so I can say "neener neener, I was right."

I'd be much happier to see all the problems fixed, so you guys could say to me, "neener neener, Possum, we told you it would come right in the end."

Whatever. Que sera, sera.

In the meantime, may I politely remind all you gentlemen that SE4 still exists. It works fine. It's still just as much fun as it ever was.

Wanna play?

My awesome fun PBW game is stalled indefinitely, due to health & ISP problems afflicting the host. The ironic part is, the host is in 1st place on the scores list, and I'm in 4th of 5 players, but I'm still having a real blast with it. Or rather, I was...

[Atrocities]

Atro - Far Cry? You actually liked that game? No offense intended, bro, but are you not usually an FPS gamer? By which I mean, are you not comparing it to the Quake series, or HL1?

I played more FPS games than any other game type out. From Doom to F.E.A.R.. And Far Cry is one of the best. (MP sucked horribly though.)

[Fyron]

Possum said:
I don't like other people's mods.

But Team Fortress is all mods...

[Possum]

Fyron, you got me there

What I should have said is, I don't like other people's SE4 mods. Or rather , I have yet to discover one that appeals to me.

[Ragnarok-X]

Oh thats mean Possum. Both Adamant and STM were really good mods. Same goes for Devnull, and various other small mods.

[Atrocities]

The neat thing is, if you don't other peoples mods, you can always make your own.

[Possum]

Ragnarok-X said:
Oh thats mean Possum. Both Adamant and STM were really good mods. Same goes for Devnull, and various other small mods.

Now, now, Raggy!

Look back to my big post 4 notches above the one I'm quoting here. In that post, I said -

"Sorry, no offense intended, but every SE4 mod I have ever tried has had something about it that strongly put me off. That's not to say they weren't good mods, just that they didn't appeal to me personally".

A mod is somebody's vision. Somebody else's vision, not mine, in these cases.

My problem with all the popular mods is that they all changed something I didn't think needed changing, or fixed something I didn't consider broken.

Crucify me along the Via Appia if you must, but I actually like Stock SE4!

Atro, yes! And I have done so, at least 6 times. My first mod added something called Polymer Technologies, (a la Crystal, Organic, etc) and that was barely a year after SE4 was released.

[Artaud]

Possum said:
Crucify me along the Via Appia if you must, but I actually like Stock SE4!

I, too, like stock SEIV--even pre-patched stock SEIV. I only began playing mods perhaps a year and a half ago.

I LOVE several of the mods out there, and now play them exclusively.

But from the way pre-patched and or stock SEIV is sometimes described on this forum one would get the impression it was an unplayable mess. For me, it never was.

[Suicide Junkie]

Its not unplayable, but it is a mess compared to the mods out there... and even to SE3. Stock SE4 is a mediocre copy of stock SE3 with a lot of stuff tacked on.

Deleting the mounts, and fixing APB/PPB to match the "SE3 x10" scheme that the rest of the weapons used makes a huge difference.