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Old March 14th, 2004, 01:48 PM
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Default Re: Star Wars Mod - II (Sci-Fi Xover Mod)

But if you do it the way I did it, see below:

Name := Warp Core I
Description := Creates a warp field surrounding a ship.
Pic Num := 1189
Tonnage Space Taken := 200
Tonnage Structure := 400
Cost Minerals := 5000
Cost Organics := 0
Cost Radioactives := 2000
Vehicle Type := Ship
Supply Amount Used := 100
Restrictions := One Per Vehicle
General Group := Engines
Family := 25048
Roman Numeral := 1
Custom Group := 0
Number of Tech Req := 1
Tech Area Req 1 := Warp Technology
Tech Level Req 1 := 1
Number of Abilities := 1
Ability 1 Type := Extra Movement Generation
Ability 1 Descr := Generates 5 bonus movement points.
Ability 1 Val 1 := 5
Ability 1 Val 2 := 0
Weapon Type := None

It will function anytime without active it again, and can be used in fleets, without seperate activation.

remark: the Hyperdrive function can simply be added in the sample I used here.
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Old March 14th, 2004, 03:34 PM

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Default Re: Star Wars Mod - II (Sci-Fi Xover Mod)

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Maybe you wanted it to be like this but I can still build a few standard SEIV components when I use SW Tech. When using the SW tech you can still build: Cargo Bay, Mine Sweepers, Phased Polaron Beam, Ripper Beam, Incinerator Beam, Wave Motion Gun, Gravitic Sensors, Solar Sails, Solar Collectors, and Null Space Projectors.

Is this intentional, or did you leave them in by accident? Looking at the components.txt file it would seem that you did not make it a requirement to have standard SEIV tech to build these comps.
Those techs are not normally available for SW races (can't be researched), but can be obtained by analizing captured ships or traded.
A side efect of this feature is that they're available in full tech starts, but that's something unusual so it's no big deal.

About hyperdrives and fleets, I know it's annoying when you have large fleets.
But there is still no other ability that would make ships move fast in normal movements but not in combat.
Using 'Extra Movement Generation' as warp cores do, will make ships super-fast in combat.
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Old March 14th, 2004, 09:50 PM

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Default Re: Star Wars Mod - II (Sci-Fi Xover Mod)

I rarely play anything but full tech; it's not that unusual for me.

Starting at low or even medium tech just makes the game move so unbearably slow, I can't stand playing like that.
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Old March 14th, 2004, 09:54 PM
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Default Re: Star Wars Mod - II (Sci-Fi Xover Mod)

I absolutly disagree with you JayB.

It's just the strenght of the game that your opponents have complete other weapons and strenghts than you have. It's realistic and more fun to choose the way of your empire from scratch.
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Old March 14th, 2004, 10:20 PM

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That's great if you enjoy playing that way more, but I don't. Is there no way to stop this from happening in full tech games?

I thought the standard SEIV tech and races were just held over to allow single play until the SW AI was done. Won’t this go away after the AI is finished? I know I certainly won’t be using standard SEIV races in any games so how could I capture or analyze to get those components if no empires have standard SEIV tech?

Or do you plan on keeping the standard SEIV tech in the game even after the AI is done?
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Old March 14th, 2004, 11:37 PM

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Research is an important part of the game and of your strategies, full tech may be faster but you're losing a great part of the game.

I've never considered removing SE4 tech.
After all, this is still the beggining of a 'sci-fi crossover mod' and 'seiv universe' is one of the sci-fi universes that you can pick.

I'm thinking about some solution for your problem. Maybe a 2nd racial trait as requirement for shared techs. I'll try if it works and may add it to a future Version, but I do not consider this something important that needs to be fixed before trying a multiplayer game.
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Actually AIs will fight you back quite effectively the way the game now.
AI's must use the "Standard SE4" racial trait, and use their original AI without problems. They will (or at least they should) pick it when randomly added, and of course you should do it manually if you add them that way.

Of course that having AI that uses starwarish techs would be nice, but my priority right now is finishing all techs to get something more or less playable so we can multiplay.
How about something for us strictly solo players? maybe one of these days I'll multi-play, but it isn't now. I haven't been on the internet at home for awhile, mostly due to the Star Trek mod game I'm playing. Can't put it down.
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