Will Vanheim Ever Become Spayed?

Aseth · #1 December 11th, 2006, 07:34 PM

yep, tested, flanks is better,

now with Chariots even more Lizard survives (about 10 chariots & some 10-20 Slaves)

Shovah32 · #2 December 11th, 2006, 08:16 PM

So im guessing chariots remove alot of mirror images, skeletons protect the flanks and when the 2 forces meet the larger ctissian force of skeletons and slaves overwhelms the now weakened van force?
I have 2 other tests for you and im not sure how they will go.
1)try basic(non-sacred) EA van/helm troops with glamour(the fairly cheap guys) and see how that goes
2)Use the sacred vrs ctis set-up and try to find a way for vanheim to win with that force.

Graeme Dice · #3 December 11th, 2006, 08:46 PM

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Shovah32 said:
So im guessing chariots remove alot of mirror images, skeletons protect the flanks and when the 2 forces meet the larger ctissian force of skeletons and slaves overwhelms the now weakened van force?

It's also a comparison of EA Vanheim and C'Tis, which is quite a bit less one-sided than EA Helheim vs. C'Tis. Van's sacreds go berserk once hit, losing them both their mirror images and several points of defense at the same time.

Aseth · #4 December 12th, 2006, 04:26 AM

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Shovah32 said:
So im guessing chariots remove alot of mirror images, skeletons protect the flanks and when the 2 forces meet the larger ctissian force of skeletons and slaves overwhelms the now weakened van force?

no, Slaves & Skels was set a bit forward as meatshield, and Chariots was on the flancs scripted "hold & attack closest", so they not only remove mirror images - but kill with trample almost all Van,and skels finish survived(2-6) Vans...

i`ll run other test`s within 12 hours or so...

HoneyBadger · #5 December 12th, 2006, 05:16 AM

I'm still testing, not really ready to multiplayer yet, simply because I've only been playing a couple of months so far. A decent player with a lot of experience could probably beat me using any nation and it wouldn't prove a thing.

One of the really nasty advantages Atlantis has over Helheim though, on a small map, say 60 provinces with 15 water, is the ability to locate and take out Helheim's home province. Once you've done that and destroyed their fortress, you've wiped out the whole W9/F9 question for as long as you can hold on to that province, which a decent player should be able to do for quite some time, since there's no way that Helheim minus their home province is going to be able to cut off Atlantis's troop line.

HoneyBadger · #6 December 12th, 2006, 05:24 AM

I've changed my mind about Atlantis pretender though, imprisoned Wyrm isn't that useful. Against Helheim I definitely think I'm better off with a master lich.

HoneyBadger · #7 December 12th, 2006, 06:06 AM

You know, this whole question really points to how limited the bless strategies are.

Huzurdaddi · #8 December 12th, 2006, 06:13 AM

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HoneyBadger said:
You know, this whole question really points to how limited the bless strategies are.

Limited did you mean LIMITING as in they are limiting in the choices you have when you are setting up your game. If you meant the latter than I agree, to maximize your chances in a decent game you have to figure out your bless strategy.