Newbie enjoying undead, looking for advice

Shovah32 · #1 December 30th, 2006, 02:07 PM

I was saying that ctis was better than pangaea. Instead of sloth3 magic3 try order3 sloth2 misfortune2 magic1. You will get alot more gold(25% more than your previous set-up) and only -1rp on your mages.

Sacred serpents arent good for bless strats. They have low prot that cant be boosted with an earth bless. Low defence that cant be helped much(even with w10 they only have 12def) with a water bless and only a single attack so they cant make use of a death9/fire9 bless.

In general, fire9 is better than death9 because: It does more damage, it increases your chance to hit, it can set enemies on fire and death bless needs the enemy to fail a mr test to do its extra damage. Those shadow vestals of yours will be very helpful for holding the enemy in place and grinding them down and if you are facing an jotuns or early thug/SC's(probably pretenders) without magic weapons they will be amazing.

Agrajag · #2 December 30th, 2006, 03:10 PM

If its income you want, I'd rather play with Turmoil-3 Sloth-3 Growth-3 Luck-3, much less of those devastating bad luck events, and eventaully your income will be better off. (A quick test game I made showed that while Order-3 was better in the first 10-20 turn, after 30 turns you are probably better off with Turmoil-3 Growth-3 Luck-3, though one game isn't statistically viable)

Meglobob · #3 December 30th, 2006, 03:31 PM

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Agrajag said:
If its income you want, I'd rather play with Turmoil-3 Sloth-3 Growth-3 Luck-3, much less of those devastating bad luck events, and eventaully your income will be better off. (A quick test game I made showed that while Order-3 was better in the first 10-20 turn, after 30 turns you are probably better off with Turmoil-3 Growth-3 Luck-3, though one game isn't statistically viable)

Also, besides the gold, you get loads of extra gems, free troops, bigger chance of heros turning up, free magic items and spells like cross breeding give you better effects.

However, the first 20 turns are the most crucial and in that time, with those scales, you are at a serious disadvantage. Especially if you only have a small empire.

I think order is better for small maps, well the luck/turmoil/sloth/growth combo fantastic for big maps with a high dominion, 9 or 10 and a powerful combat pretender, dragon etc...

Agrajag · #4 December 30th, 2006, 06:08 PM

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Meglobob said:

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Agrajag said:
If its income you want, I'd rather play with Turmoil-3 Sloth-3 Growth-3 Luck-3, much less of those devastating bad luck events, and eventaully your income will be better off. (A quick test game I made showed that while Order-3 was better in the first 10-20 turn, after 30 turns you are probably better off with Turmoil-3 Growth-3 Luck-3, though one game isn't statistically viable)

Also, besides the gold, you get loads of extra gems, free troops, bigger chance of heros turning up, free magic items and spells like cross breeding give you better effects.

However, the first 20 turns are the most crucial and in that time, with those scales, you are at a serious disadvantage. Especially if you only have a small empire.

I think order is better for small maps, well the luck/turmoil/sloth/growth combo fantastic for big maps with a high dominion, 9 or 10 and a powerful combat pretender, dragon etc...

Well, obviously each pick is good for different games, different people and different strategies.
I just wanted to remind that Turmoil-3 Luck-3 Growth-3 is a viable alternative to Order-3.

And I assumed the extra gems,magical items, units and heroes and cross breeding were obvious advantages. Then again, I guess they aren't always obvious