SEIV GOLD Rebate

fdlu · #1 December 4th, 2001, 09:03 PM

Thanks for the reply. :-))
I know it is currently in development.But seems nice so far.
When are some sections done could there be
some examples to be seen Online ?? Just to get a feel for it.
As a suggestion, can there be added some how to's
with example setups on strategic combat or other ??
I have seen nice ones in this forum but they were to fragmented for myself and my limited time to really use them. maybe they can be compiled
as with the mods to be included, at least as a txt-file. i am pretty sure the authors of them would feel honored to be included.

Shyrka · #2 December 5th, 2001, 02:37 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Tim Brooks:
The manual is being written by Mark Walker...

I think that a PDF Version of this manual would be very interesting. I use to print a copy of my favorite games manuals and use the copy instead of the original. Sometimes i even print or copy portions to make a mini-manual or reference cards, and SE4 is the most complex game i've ever played.

BTW, i think this is the best addition.

CombatSquirrel · #3 December 5th, 2001, 03:14 AM

You know if the manual is really very good, that alone would be worth the cost of the upgrade to Gold for me...

I'm starting to get more excited about this already...

CombatSquirrel

Puke · #4 December 5th, 2001, 06:52 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Tim Brooks:

How about if we offer an option for a $15.00 coupon to our store. Would that help? We thought about just giving a credit back on your charge card, but each transaction like this costs us about $3.00. We could offer to credit your card for $12.00 in place of the check?

okay, here is the honest answer people will probably hate me for. since i think that darn near everyone hates me anyway, im not going to mind to much.

i am a lazy bastard. a business asociate of mine just got done relating a story about how his uncle just got done with a valve replacement. the same guy who though that five minutes of calisthenics each morning would be enough to keep him in good health. all I could think about was "****, thats five minutes more than I do each morning."

point being, I have a long shopping list of games that I want to buy and try. many of which are higher on the list than some shrapnel games. If offered a store credit, I would probably use it as an excuse to buy a 'good' game from your store rather than some slick piece of kit that i think looks nice and swanky from the screenshots and previews. if you offer an option of a refund OR a credit, i will probably take the refund because it would require less effort on my part.

actually, Honestly, i would probably take either nothing, or take the credit. If I did not want to see the serise develop into SE5 and beyond, I might take the refund.. but i can see how other people would readily ignore the credit bit if they were offered the refund.

I say you should offer either a credit or nothing. if you are offering a credit, you might be able to do it without any proof of purchase, thus all the non-cd-breaking people can be happy. that will also increase exposure to other shrapnel games, and encourage many of us here in the 4x comunity to branch into real mans games. like battletech you WUSSY WARHAMMER PLAYING ENGLISHMEN! PLAY A REAL WARGAME GODDAMMIT!

i mean, ah, umm.. too much newcastle, g'night.

Atrocities · #5 December 5th, 2001, 07:07 AM

quote:
40,000 pirated copies of SEIV in existance

Good god! This figure makes me sick. Too bad you can't impliment what sierra did with Tribes 2. A single user register. You get the game, install it, and registar it. It then sends you an activation code. The disk that you have can never be used again to obtain an activation code. The only other way to get an activation code is to request it from Sierra, and they don't give them out very often.

Will · #6 December 5th, 2001, 08:30 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Puke:
you got a signed copy? when were they offering those?

MMs in SF, yeah? Think I could get my CD signed if i knocked on their door? Think it would help if i brought burgers and beer?

Like the Baron said, at the end of the Beta Test phase. If you load up the game and click the "Credits" button at the bottom of the intro screen, look at the very Last beta tester on the list. Then look at my name...

--edit: forgot about the burgers and beer... --
Not quite sure on that one, Aaron has been known to be a very private person (I was kinda suprised to see the "Special Thanks" that caught my attention). You might have to throw in some fries too. Possibly some tacos. Don't forget to bow and grovel and all that, until he gets annoyed at you getting on your knees and bowing in his direction, wailing "I am not worthy!" every five minutes.

--end edit--

And side note, I just clicked the "Credits" button, to see if anything changed since I Last looked (where my name was the Last thing on the list other than "Thanks for playing!"). There were some Shrapnel credits added, and a "Special Thanks" section. That part is quite interesting. w00t!

Congratulations, Aaron

(Richard and/or Tim, you might have to convey several Messages to Aaron from the fans... heh)

[ 05 December 2001: Message edited by: Will ]

Spoo · #7 December 5th, 2001, 09:17 AM

I'm somewhat torn. On one hand I'll be getting several new features and continued support for the best 4x game ever (I've already ordered SEIV GOLD). On the other hand, it seems that Shrapnel and MM are trying to componsate for the lost income from illegal copies - which I think they are entitled to. However, how far will this go? Releasing a new CD will not stop illegal copies. Is there going to be an SEIV PLATINUM next year? Sure no one HAS to buy anything else, but the fact of the matter is a game like this is at its best when played with other people. Older Versions are not compatable with newer ones. In order for people to stay with PBW (or the new TCP/IP), they have to buy the new Version. It's not really a question of "Do you want drones?" it's a question of "Do you want to keep playing SEIV?" I do. However, some people might just find it easier to get an illegal copy of SEIV GOLD. After all, they already paid for SEIV once... And all of the other patches were free... (And no, I'm not suggesting pirating is at all appropriate, but I know how people think.)

You can declare me a heretic if it makes you feel better, but you have to consider the fact that the new features don't need a new CD to work. This is simply a case of Shrapnel and MM asking for more money. But that's what businesses do. And they'll get my money, and I imagine the money of many others on this forum. It's just that I'd hate to think that those of us who paid for SEIV and will pay for SEIV GOLD are being used to cover the losses for the people who have, and will continue to, pirate the the game.