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Yeah, I'll play!
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I'd like to play, but schedule is tight.
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I like tourneys, but your rules are stupid.
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January 13th, 2007, 02:34 PM
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Re: Tournament Proposal
Might need some diplo rules, possibly along the lines of No Alliances.
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January 13th, 2007, 02:56 PM
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Re: Tournament Proposal
Sounds like fun. I'll play.
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January 13th, 2007, 02:57 PM
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Re: Tournament Proposal
Me too.
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January 13th, 2007, 02:58 PM
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Re: Tournament Proposal
I just hope the desire to be number one does not produce cheaters.
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January 13th, 2007, 03:27 PM
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Re: Tournament Proposal
Sign up by replying to the thread  . If you want, you can send me a PM with your prioritized list of nation picks for age 1 - if you can attach it as a .txt file I can make sure not to look at it. Use at least the first three letters of the nation name, or the nation number (your choice). For example:
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nief
arc
saur
lanka
aby
erm
r'lyeh
Make at least 7 selections. The maps will probably have 7 land starts and 2 sea starts - and 7 start locations will be used - but I might decide to have 7 starts, and if any of them are sea people will be forced to take sea positions. Thoughts?
Title the file yournick_1.txt
Unfortunately, there isn't really any way to enforce a "no alliances" rule - and it raises the question of what exactly qualifies as an "alliance".
I'd consider a rule that no-one is allowed to send gold, gems or magic items to anyone else. Actually, if there were an option to prevent players from trading, I'd set it. An honor system is great, but making it impossible to cheat is much preferable.
I will say - no *prior* alliances.
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January 13th, 2007, 05:10 PM
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Re: Tournament Proposal
I am interested. But Iw ouldl ike tomake the folowing comments
1) I don't like that idea of setting random events down to rare. This will garantee everyone will pick misfortune 3. Could you not instead increase the number of starting provinces, so a bad luck event at the beginning is easier to recover from?
2)i take it the map size is large enough such that early bless rush strategies are balanced out? Things would be unfair otherwise.
3) Since this is a skill contest, a person should be able to play any nation. I would much prefer that random nations are used.
4) If you want a no alliance rule, you could always say that no messages are allowed to be sent at all.
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January 13th, 2007, 05:19 PM
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Re: Tournament Proposal
There is no way to stop people from sending messages. Rules that can't be enforced should be avoided.
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January 13th, 2007, 05:45 PM
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Re: Tournament Proposal
On reflection, I agree with Teraswaerto - if a "no messages" setting appears in the next patch, I will set it.
Okay - in the playoff round, random events will remain common, but each player will begin with 3 provinces. That seems like it would buffer bad events somewhat but still allow SC pretenders their place (which is the problem with multi-province starts.)
The number of start locations and the distance between them will tend to restrict maps to 200 provinces+, depending on how mountainous they are, etc. That's somewhere between a "medium" and "large" random map.
I'm not doing random nations. I don't want to start a flamewar over it, but I think that tests breadth of familiarity with the game nations, rather than skill as such. Put another way - I expect people to bring strategies they've tried and tested in other MP games and try them out on eachother, which you can't generally do if you're handed a nation you haven't played much.
However, I think a skilled player should have a winning strategy worked out with at least a few of the nations in each period, so that's what I'm requiring. It is entirely possible that no-one will choose Bandar Log - fine, that is acceptable. To an extent, this will also have the benefit of creating a "strongest nation" poll for each era.
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January 13th, 2007, 08:23 PM
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Re: Tournament Proposal
People will still end up using email, irc, PMs on this forum, etc.
One of the things I was considering was creating a game on my server and doing "blind emails". Such as creating accounts for Man, Ulm, Ermor, etc on my server and watching the email traffic for violations such as setting up a way to converse outside of those emails. But it seemed more trouble than its worth.
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January 14th, 2007, 04:38 PM
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Re: Tournament Proposal
Quote:
DrPraetorious said:
Okay - in the playoff round, random events will remain common, but each player will begin with 3 provinces. That seems like it would buffer bad events somewhat but still allow SC pretenders their place (which is the problem with multi-province starts.)
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This setup favors using Misfortune as a point mine. If I know that there is only a 33% chance of my capital getting hit by a bad event in the first few turns, instead of a 100% chance, then I will be much more likely to use Misfortune. After all, once your empire expands beyond say 10 provs, misfortune isnt nearly as crippling as it should be, anymore.
I understand that the intent here is to protect regular, non-misfortune players from a crippling event. But the side effect is that it very much favors misfortune abuse.
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