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My problem isn't with a tough AI. I like a tough AI.

The problem is that the various opponents are so different in ability. Before you have a chance to do anything about Ermor they have all but won the game.

Imagine an all-human game with two experts and a bunch of newbies. Who is going to win? The expert in a better position to run over the newbies. In reality the game is over before turn 1 although nobody knows it at the time.
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You could always eliminate Ermor from an SP game if it bothers you so much, that is a possibility.

One thing I have found though is that, the more I learn about strategy in Dom3, the less I worry about any particular Nation. There's always a way to beat them, especially in SP.

There are plenty of reasons why we don't have great AI for Dom3, but there are lots of things that could be done to make it better, even with all the complexity going on. I'm all for a mean SP and I hope we get it sooner rather than later.
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One thing I have found though is that, the more I learn about strategy in Dom3, the less I worry about any particular Nation. There's always a way to beat them, especially in SP.


This comment is spot on and goes to the heart of why this is such a superb game.
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One thing I have found though is that, the more I learn about strategy in Dom3, the less I worry about any particular Nation. There's always a way to beat them, especially in SP.


This comment is spot on and goes to the heart of why this is such a superb game.
Yea, I agree. There are powerful nations but every nation has a way of beating them.

Alot of people seem to complain about balance but I think dominions is very, very well balanced. The only drawback to this, is in MP you can get some stalemate situations, where 2 good players are fighting each another over dozens of turns with no headway.
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You could always eliminate Ermor from an SP game if it bothers you so much, that is a possibility.

One thing I have found though is that, the more I learn about strategy in Dom3, the less I worry about any particular Nation. There's always a way to beat them, especially in SP.

There are plenty of reasons why we don't have great AI for Dom3, but there are lots of things that could be done to make it better, even with all the complexity going on. I'm all for a mean SP and I hope we get it sooner rather than later.
The problem is *NOT* with playing against Ermor directly. That doesn't bother me.

My problem is with Ermor mopping up everyone around while they are on the far side of the world.
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Try setting Independents to Strength 9. That'll probably help a lot. I usually play that way and Ermor has become much less noticeable.
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