Strange RPG aviability date??

[Listy]

DRG said:
You can forget asking for new weapons to be added to the Russian OOB. What you see is what you get. Every weapon slot is full and every weapon is being used in the OOB's.

Hmmm, is this a sign that the next logical step is to put weapons under a more generic name, across the OOB's? Like Pistols and Sniper rifles are generic.

[DRG]

What?? and ruin the game for all the people who just HAVE to have AK-47's and AK-74's all showing up in the game in the correct year with the correct names? Imagine the howling!. ( That's "detail" man and people just gotta have it or the games not "accurate" )

Look, I'll give you time to contemplate what's involved in combing through the OOB's looking for weapons that could be "generisized" and then think about all the units that would need to be changed and every sceanrio that would need to be checked and corrected and re-issued becasue somebodys "rifle" in a Scenario just turned into a thermobaric launcher.

Not going to happen. All of the RPG's not covered are covered well enough by all the others we already have in the game

Don

[Marcello]

"and the OG-7V"

That is only a dedicated HE round for the RPG-7.It would be simulated with the appropriated HE kill rating for the RPG-7 and dedicated HE ammo for whatever unit uses it.

[DRG]

Yes, it could. There are always exceptions that can be adapted but since the game now allows HE effects with all HEAT it's not really a big issue in terms of game play. All it means is if I change one round to HE and take one off the HEAT count somebody will end up short a HEAT warhead when they really need it someday.

Yes, specific units could be made just for that. I'll paste that to my " ideas" list" for future consideration

.......of course you know that means that someday I'll get a complaint from someone that the RPG-7 their unit uses in the game has a bug becasue all the rounds that hit a tank give no effect

Don

[Cross]

DRG said:
.......of course you know that means that someday I'll get a complaint from someone that the RPG-7 their unit uses in the game has a bug becasue all the rounds that hit a tank give no effect

Don

lol That's funny. I hope I'm playing that guy.

And you know there are soldiers out there that would make the same complaint to their CO, but with a lot of swearing thrown in...

[kikka]

Don,
I don't mean to start a bonfire the way some others did with TI.
I know Andy did not develop Mobhack for nothing, and if I want to play with the different RPGs not modelled today, I'll do a custom OOB. This to close the "issue".
What I would need though, and was not able to find out, is who uses what. Except for the RPG-16 which seems to be a more dedicated paratroop weapon. What I was looking for too is the date the different RPGs were phased out. If anybody has got the info, just let me know.
Cheers.

[Marcello]

"What I was looking for too is the date the different RPGs were phased out"

Hard to tell, as the russians are quite reluctant to throw away equipment: I have seen pictures of D-44 85mm guns being employed in Chechenya. I would suspect that the RPG-2
might have been theoretically available to Category C units until 1991. A lot of obsolete equipment was officially phased out at that date. It is also possible that the earliest RPG-7 rounds of the 60's followed the same fate. But pretty much anything else in that list, from the RPG-7VL onwards, should still be in use.

[Marcello]

"Yes, specific units could be made just for that. I'll paste that to my " ideas" list" for future consideration"

That is a good idea, because the OG-7V and similar have been exported in quantity and have seen quite a bit of battlefield use.

[Marek_Tucan]

Marcello said:
I have seen pictures of D-44 85mm guns being employed in Chechenya.

I have seen just newer (but still quite old) D48 85mm guns, but then our army also used vz.52 85mm guns well into 1980's as field guns and in reserve depots so even oldie D44 is possible...