Advice for Abysia against Niefelheim

Sammual · #1 January 27th, 2007, 10:44 AM

As a hard core Niefelheim player I can tell you what hurts the most. Being hit in the pocket book. Don't try to fight him head to head. Use small armies to take his provinces, don't bother to defend them too well. As soon as he splits up his army try to hit one of his smaller armies with 2 or 3 of yours. Heavy on the fire magic, have you expensive mages retreat after casting the fire spells and wear them down. And above all else make shure he doesn't have 'Gift of Health' active. If he does then you are screwed. Extra giant HP and removal of afflictions will make his armies almost unstoppable.

Sammual

NTJedi · #2 January 27th, 2007, 07:42 PM

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Sammual said:
As a hard core Niefelheim player I can tell you what hurts the most. Being hit in the pocket book.

Sammual is correct... destroy his gold income.

Cor · #3 January 27th, 2007, 08:56 PM

Can you build some thugs or SC. A few heartfinderswords and eyesheilds might work nicely...

llamabeast · #4 January 27th, 2007, 09:16 PM

Thanks guys, lots of good ideas here. I've been doing some tests, and some of these strategies seem pretty effective - I won't comment which yet, because you never know who's reading! I'll get back with results when the time comes, if it does - there may be some hope of peace after all.

If anyone else has ideas please still say! Thanks!

llamabeast

Shovah32 · #5 January 27th, 2007, 10:11 PM

Also, if you take a fire9 pretender your pillars of fire from him should be able to insta-kill(or almost) even niefel giants(they are 34+ ap damage and only require f2, im not sure how to work out the final damage but its alot)

DrPraetorious · #6 January 27th, 2007, 10:49 PM

We can hardly give you good strategic advice if you don't tell us what you're planning, can we?

FWIW, I recommend that you send him all your gold and gems, and beg for mercy!

What you really need to do is boost your earth magic a bit - give your spellcasters earth gems if need be - and take my armor off with a destruction (or similar armor rusting spell.)

If you can do that, my giants are pretty much toast. Regen on non-armored units is fairly easy to overcome. Of course, this trick also works real well against you, but I don't have any earth mages yet.

Shovah32 · #7 January 28th, 2007, 12:01 AM

Or he could just use fire spells that ignore or atleast halve armour...

Graeme Dice · #8 January 28th, 2007, 02:04 PM

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Shovah32 said:
Also, if you take a fire9 pretender your pillars of fire from him should be able to insta-kill(or almost) even niefel giants(they are 34+ ap damage and only require f2, im not sure how to work out the final damage but its alot)

Pillar of fire is a level 8 spell, so you won't be seeing it till around turn 40 at the earliest, which is virtually the end of most games.

Aleph · #9 January 29th, 2007, 12:40 AM

What about Demonbred assassins with annoying items to try to pick off his leadership? I don't know, fire bolas, poison weapons + medallions of vengeance, maybe a black bow of botulf to at least feeblemind his blessers, or perhaps equip your assassins with slave collars and hope his prophet grabs it by accident. While he can take lots of ablative commanders to try to thin out your percentages on assassination, you can probably wipe out those guys with battlefield spells in your hit and run attacks.