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January 31st, 2007, 11:12 AM
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Re: Soviet OBB T-62 designations
T-62 (1961) - Obj.166
Base model. 2A20 gun with two plane "Meteor" stabiliser and +16/-6 deg elevation/depretion, 2245mm turret ring. TKN-3 TC day/night sight, TSh2B-41 gunner day sight with 3.5/7x magnification, TPN1-41-11 night sight. 40 rounds ammo load. PKT coax with 2500 rounds. V-55V engine with 580hp. 102mm@60deg glacis, 242mm max frontal turret.
Since 1969. DShKM AAMG was installed.
In 1975 KTD-1 LRF was installed.
None of those versions got any separate designation.*
T-62A (1962). Obj.164
This is NOT a designation aplied to a AAMG equiped T-62 but totaly diferent vehicle, armed with 100mm D-54TS gun, with "Kometa" two plane stabiliser.
T-62K (1964) - Obj.166K
Aditional R-112 radio, AB-1 APU. 36 x 115mm rounds, 1750 rounds for a coax PKT.
T-62K (1964) - Obj.166KN
+ TNA-2 navigation aids
T-62D (1983) - Obj.166D
1030M "Drozd" APS installed.
T-62D-1 (1983) - Obj.166D-1
With V-46-5M engine.
T-62M (1983) Obj.166M
Deep modernisation of the T-62.
Aditional armor on glacis and turret, aditional anti-mine protection for driver, 10mm reinforced rubber side skirts, 10mm anti-neutron-liner. Tracks from T-72, two aditional amortisers on 1st roadwheels. KTD-2 LRF, TShSM-41U gunner's sight, "Meteor M1" stabiliser, BV-62 balistic computer, 9K116-1 "Sheksna" guided missile unit. Gun thermal sleave, R-173 radio instead of R-123M and 620hp V-55U engine. 42 rounds of 115 ammo/missiles.
T-62M-1 - Obj.166M-1
With V-46-5M engine.
T-62M1 - Obj.166M1
No missile guidance.
T-62M1-1 - Obj.166M1-1
No missile guidance, V-46-5M engine.
T-62M1-2 - Obj.166M1-2
No missile guidance and no aditional armor.
T-62M1-2-1 - Obj.166M1-2-1
No missile guidance, no aditional armor, V-46-5M engine.
T-62MD (1983) Obj.166MD
T-62M version with "Drozd" APS instead of aditional turret armor.
T-62MD-1 - Obj.166MD-1
With V-46-5M engine
T-62MK - Obj.166MK
Command version, no missile guidance, TNA-2 navigation aids, aditional R-112 radio, AB-1 APU. Less main gun and coax ammo.
T-62MK-1 - Obj.166MK-1
With V-46-5M engine.
T-62MV (1985) - Obj.166MV
K-1 era instead of aditional armor.
T-62MV-1 - Obj.166MV-1
With V-46-5M engine
T-62M1V - Obj.166M1V
No missile guidance
T-62M1V-1 - Obj.166M1V-1
No missile guidance, V-46-5M engine.
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January 31st, 2007, 04:00 PM
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Re: Soviet OBB T-62 designations
This is why it seems particularly the T-62 variant designations are a mess. This one says that the 12.7AAMG installed models are not a seperate designation (T-62A)
I've never heard of the T-62A model in your post. a T-62 with a 100mm D-54T gun?
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January 31st, 2007, 04:22 PM
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Re: Soviet OBB T-62 designations
The list itself is impressive but contains no source reference.
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January 31st, 2007, 05:27 PM
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Re: Soviet OBB T-62 designations
from FAS
T-62A: Besides the standard 7.62-mm PKT coaxial machine gun with a range of 1,000 meters, the T-62A version features a 12.7-mm DShK antiaircraft machine gun with a range of 1,500 meters against ground targets and a slant range of 1,000 meters against aircraft. The T-62A also has a stabilized main gun, which enables the gunner to track and fire on the move with significantly improved accuracy.
T-62K: Command tank models also have a land navigation system which includes a gyroscopic compass and a calculator giving continuous enroute readout of the tank's location (in relation to its point of origin) and its distance from and azimuth to a predetermined objective.
T-62M adds protection, FCS and ATGM capability.
T-62 variants with a V-46 T-72-type engine add -1 to their designation.
T-62M1: Variant with Volna FCS but no missile launch capability.
T-62D: Variant with the Drozd APS vs ERA.
T-62MK: Command variant.
T-62MV: Version with ERA in place of the bra armor. The ERA includes Kontakt ERA and Kontakt-5 2nd-Generation ERA.
From wikipedia
T-62 - early production version, had a 14.5 mm KPVT machine gun in coaxial mount instead of the more common SGMT 7.62 mm.
T-62A - Added 12.7 mm anti-aircraft machine gun (which is often removed in the field) and changed coaxial machine gun to PKMT 7.62 mm. Also added was a stabalized main gun which let the gunner fire while moving with significantly improved accuracy. Though still when firing ATGMs from the gun it would need to make a quick stop. All T-62s in Soviet service were converted to these specifications before 1970.
T-62K - Command tank with additional communications gear, recognizable by multiple radio antennas instead of just one.
T-62M - added laser range-finder, reactive armour.
T-62D - added 9K118 Sheksna laser-guided antitank missile system (AT-12 Swinger), which is fired through the gun tube.
T-62MV - T-62D produced for export, most of which were given to North Korea and Syria as military aid.
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Re: Soviet OBB T-62 designations
From militaryfactory.com
T-62 - Base production vehicle
T-62K - Commander's Vehicle
T-62D - Additional armor and specialized anti-tank system.
T-62D-1 - Updated T-62D variant with newer powerplant.
T-62M - Modifications including anti-tank defense system and added passive armor.
T-62M-1
T-62M1 - Updated engine; added passive armor
T-62M1-1 - Sans passive armor and anti-armor defense system.
T-62M1-2
T-62M1-2-1
T-62MV - Features explosive reactive armor
from armscontrol.ru
T-62 This is the basic T-62 model, which essentially was a stretched T-55 chassis, with a new suspension, and a new turret equipped with the U-5T (2A20) Rapira 115-mm smoothbore gun. The gun has the new Meteor two-axis stabilization system.
T-62K This is the command tank variant of the T-62, and like earlier types, has one additional R-122 radio, a TNA-2 navigation system, a 4-meter antenna, but less ammunition. The corresponding command tank for the T-62M is the T-62MK.
T-62M (Also called T-62A) This tank includes the addition of a 12.7-mm antiaircraft DShK machine-gun on the loader's hatch. This modification included modification of the turret right side.
T-62M Model 1975 This is the T-62M with the addition of the KTD-1 laser rangefinder over the main gun mantlet.
T-62E The war in Afghanistan forced the Soviets to up-armor their tanks to provide better protection from infantry antitank weapons, such as the RPG-7. This upgrade led to the BDD appliqu? armor package. This package consists of a panel of armor on the glacis plate, two panels of "horse-shoe" armor around the front of the turret, and an optional package of belly armor for anti-mine protection. The total package adds 3.9 tons to the weight of the vehicle.
T-62M1 This further modification of the T-62A includes much of the modifications added to the T-55 to make the T-55AM2PB. These improvements include the Volna fire control system with the BV-62 computer, Meteor M1 gun stabilization package, TShSM-41U sight, KDT-2 laser rangefinder and 1K13 guidance sight package. This tank is equipped with the AT-12 Sheksna laser-guided antitank guided missile, which operates in much the same way as the AT-10 STABBER ATGM. This tank also includes the uprated V-55U engine, and the R-173 radio system. This vehicle is also usually fitted with the BDD appliqu? armor package.
T-62MV This is the T-62M fitted with the ERA package found on the T-55MV.
This seems to fit most closely with SPMBT. Although not completly. Well, then it seems that SPMBTs T-62 designations are modeled on Russian sources and not the messy contradictory western variations. I'm impressed 
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Re: Soviet OBB T-62 designations
Sorry got it from Jane's Armour and Artillery 2005-2006 ISBN 978-0-7106-2686-8 by Christopher J. Foss.
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Re: Soviet OBB T-62 designations
Lot's and Lot's of info
I noticed that while the info from Janes claims an "A" model with the 100mm gun ( and from other bit's I've read this would be a development model and not in any way a production model ) the info does not give an "A" designation to any other model. FAS makes the "A" the one with the 12.7-mm DShK antiaircraft machine as does wikipedia (which, until they get away from allowing just anyone to edit is aways a questionable source until confirmed separately )and militaryfactory.com and armscontrol.ru make no mention of an "A" model at all.
Which is why these things tend to get confusing..
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Re: Soviet OBB T-62 designations
from armscontrol.ru
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T-62M (Also called T-62A) This tank includes the addition of a 12.7-mm antiaircraft DShK machine-gun on the loader's hatch. This modification included modification of the turret right side.
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I agree, there doesn't seem to be any agreement.
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Re: Soviet OBB T-62 designations
"Smersh's T-62 crusade"
I've been doing alot of research into this, I've looked at a few of books from the 80s, from Jane's and other authors. The conclusion I've come to is that they knew nothing.
The true designations seem to be a mix of FAS and modern Janes. The bottom-line is that the current SPMBT designation system is out of date.
edit:I've made some changes to my own OBB: What is currently called T-62M (unit 18), I've changed to T-62 M1969, this is the so called T-62A with the 12.7mm AAmg. Unit 19, I've changed to T-62 M1975, this adds the laser range-finder. It seems T-62s produced after those years started adding those parts. In 1969 when the AAmg was added this was mistaken as a seperate variant (sometimes called a T-62A or even less common T-62M) since older model T-62s remained in service.
Unit 21, currently T-62M1 I've changed to T-62M and coorespondingly unit 22 currently T-62M1 BDD to T-62M BDD. The T-62M1 was the variant with no missles, since the MBT version has missiles it should not be called T-62M1.
I've made no other changes besided unit name, everything else remains identical. This may seem like a minor change, but, for me, it really cleared up alot of confusion, and makes unit names more accurate.
It would be very nice if someone would design a T-62M BDD icon, to represent the extra add on applique armor. currently it looks like the standard T-62 with a different camo. upgraded (AM1, AM2) T-55 models get a seperate looking icon.
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Re: Soviet OBB T-62 designations
Quote:
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Lot's and Lot's of info
I noticed that while the info from Janes claims an "A" model with the 100mm gun ( and from other bit's I've read this would be a development model and not in any way a production model ) the info does not give an "A" designation to any other model. FAS makes the "A" the one with the 12.7-mm DShK antiaircraft machine as does wikipedia (which, until they get away from allowing just anyone to edit is aways a questionable source until confirmed separately )and militaryfactory.com and armscontrol.ru make no mention of an "A" model at all.
Which is why these things tend to get confusing..
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