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December 21st, 2001, 10:39 AM
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Re: Off Topic DO NOT BUY CIV 3
I am just seconding Spyder’s request. Anyone got a link for Illwinter Dominions?
Someone has already bought me Civ III and it is in the mail. Sigh.
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December 21st, 2001, 03:09 PM
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Re: Off Topic DO NOT BUY CIV 3
Does anyone ever wish that they'd update and re-release The Perfect General?
I thought it was a great two-man game. You played the agressor and then the defender and tallyed the points to see who won. Each city or strategic point held counted points. The original game was limited to Armor & Artillery, but the second (which I never played) incorporated some more materiel.
Another game I wish that they'd update and re-release is Global Conquest. The game was done by Dan Bunten (before he became Dani Bunten) and was a great short-term 4x game. You could have up to 4 players; you had to discover resources, defend them and the cities (which were guarded by neutrals) and conduct exploration & war, while trying to maintain resources and funding. One of the very best options of Global Conquest was that you could set up the turn length to one of 4 methods: 1) Unlimited; 2) 5 minutes; 3) 1 minute; 4) Firecracker. Firecracker is the cutthroat setting  On the Firecracker mode, when the first person hits his done button, ALL PLAYERS ARE DONE  really evil  I would make the game board octagonal and increase the number of players to 8 and make the game board a little larger to accomodate that.
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December 21st, 2001, 04:23 PM
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Re: Off Topic DO NOT BUY CIV 3
It is very sad, but Dani Bunten has died due to cancer.  She made games that I will ever have in my memory (M.U.L.E, Command HQ).
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December 21st, 2001, 04:26 PM
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Re: Off Topic DO NOT BUY CIV 3
Dracus, Phoenix-D: Yah, they just said that Myth III was nowhere near Myth II in terms of quality. Of course, like Phoenix-D said, this is the same mag that gave Civ3 quite a high rating. Guess first-hand experience is always still the best!
Spyder, Saxon: http://www.illwinter.com/dominions.html
Do most sites/mags rate Civ3 highly? I usually settle on games that there is a consensus of high opinion upon. Although it looks like the scope of Civ3 might take more time than I would have.
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December 21st, 2001, 04:35 PM
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Re: Off Topic DO NOT BUY CIV 3
On operating systems;
err, I'm still running Win95 on a DOS platform, on my "2 cylinder" P233. Must admit though, I havent used my DOS features for a couple of years......
On the positive side, I've never had any incompatibility problems and my machine is very stable....
Wrt CivIII, thanks for the warnings. Think I may receive it as a Xmas present so at least now I have an idea of the issues...
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December 21st, 2001, 05:51 PM
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Re: Off Topic DO NOT BUY CIV 3
My kids were going to get me CIV3, but I told them to hold off until its fixed and told them to order Napoleon's Le Grand Armee from Matrix, just came out, instead (mail order only). How about a remake of Empire Deluxe? Upgrade to current technolgy, I really enjoyed that game and its partner Empire...
Also looking foreward to the book "The Shiva Option" by Weber & White (sequal to In Deaths Ground) similiar to SE4 and Starfire
just some ideas mac
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December 21st, 2001, 06:06 PM
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Re: Off Topic DO NOT BUY CIV 3
quote: Originally posted by mac5732:
Also looking foreward to the book "The Shiva Option" by Weber & White (sequal to In Deaths Ground) similiar to SE4 and Starfire
[ 21 December 2001: Message edited by: mac5732 ]
I am also looking forward to the Shiva Option - dont know about you but I sometimes find David Weber's books to be a little bit gloom, doom and despondancy - it would be nice for a starfire book to be a little upbeat and not sure of religious nutters or bugs that scoff the locals
SEIV - Starfire - cut from the same mold if you ask me but the charm of SEIV is that you are not stuck doing all the wretched paperwork
3rd edition starfire could sometimes feel like an accountancy exam
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