Off Topic DO NOT BUY CIV 3

[Atrocities]

Response to Askan post.

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2. Strategic resources. Thats a cool idea and really changes some of the concepts of the city placement and unit building

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Good point, I must agree, that the Strategic resources was a good idea, and does lend toward the games appeal.

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3. Culture border thingy. Means I can justify packing my cities in and overlap some squares.

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Your right again, this did help me gain a few enemy cities.

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4. Diplomacy and trade seem good. Although I've never seen anyone bribe me for a peace deal (which sux, I don't call off my swordsmen for nothing).

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This is one of the indeering qualities of this game, and is one that I have stated I liked.

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5. AI. Mentioned already but it seems quite good, even whacked me around a bit.Once it even sent in a suicide soldier to pillage a road to my only iron source! (which may have been pure fluke by the way).

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Agreed, the AI in this game is rather good.

I feel the game is salvageable, but in order to do that, a lot of thing will need to be done. Mentioned already in this thread are just a few of the improvements that could be made. Again, I ask, will they make them? Answer, probibly not.

[MarkP]

Civ 3 is alright but could have been a lot better. And It also would be a lot pleasurable{ “if people would stop trashing it”} and making everyone who have the game feel like sh*t.

WHO wants to play a game, that everyone says is crap.????????

[ 27 December 2001: Message edited by: MarkP ]

[Mephisto]

Noone wants to make you fell like anything, MarkP. The people here talk about a game. I don't see how this can make you fell like sh*t. If any game would make me feel a way I would feel like superman for playing SE4. As I'm not wearing a blue/read dress, I would say, it did not make me feel like it.

[MarkP]

Alright when I was thinking of my Last post I detent have a chance to read Atrocities post, But I’m glad that you will give it a chance when it gets better.

[Atrocities]

MarkP, its not that I hate the game, its that I dislike its current condition. Hell ya I will play the game once some of the issues have been corrected. Man I stayed up overnight playing it for several days. I played if for a month before getting ticked off at the stupid Military adviser, the one that makes the really dumb and annoying face and really does not help you.

The game has a lot to offer, and you should be proud that you enjoy it, and have it. I know that even if the game does not get improved, I still somewhat enjoyed it.

As Mephisto said, if a game can make you feel anything, SEIV would make a person feel like superman. Civ3 made me feel like a dark lord full of anger, and I had to step away from it. It may make others feel like Kings, and for a while it did that for me, but to me, the game is like that Ring in LOR's, it eventually took over my mind and made me evil..... wonders off to hurt something ........

[mac5732]

Well, my daughter got me CIV3 for Xmas, so I will give it a try eventually, currently also got EU2 for xmas and that's what I'm playing around with for now, also ordered SEIV-gold.

Yin, sorry I didn't get to read your message sooner, didn't get my son Battle Realms but he has birthday in March, I'll get it for him then, I got him Conquest and Napoleon at Australitz by Matrix. They'll keep him busy until then, but tks for the info on the game

just some ideas mac

[bstripp]

I havn't made it through the entire thread yet, but if no one has posted the link to Illwinter's site it is:

http://www.illwinter.com/dom_intro.html

I'm downloading the demo now as it looks pretty cool.