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February 17th, 2007, 08:34 PM
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Re: Soviet Union SPOB 11 KV-1 tank-gun confusion.
source: Russian battlefield -site again.
http://www.battlefield.ru/index.php?...d=78&Itemid=50
There is a line: "In May 1943, the "T-34 tank-hunter" and "KV tank-hunter" were accepted for service again. They were armed with modernised ZIS-4M tank gun... "
So far that is the only info Ive found about it.
So it would look as the KV-57 was a similar thing to the T-34/57, the arnament was changed to a more effective (in AT role not HE) gun. These were limited edition vehicles. The vehicle ingame seems to reprecent this tank.
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February 17th, 2007, 10:30 PM
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Re: Soviet Union SPOB 11 KV-1 tank-gun confusion.
Interesting, The Kv-85 did not have a BMG.
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The first KV-85s were re-worked from excess KV-1S hulls, welding up the hole for the ball-mounted hull machine gun. The incorrect opinion has appeared in Western literature that there was a "second version" of the KV-85 with a flexible front machine gun. This confusion most likely arose as a result of study by Western experts of the only KV-85 tank that has been preserved to this day (monument in Avtovo, St.Peterburg), where a mistake was made in the restoration process. According to archival data, 148 KV-85 tanks were produced; they were sent to the front beginning in September 1943. Simultaneously, output of the KV-1S tank was continued until December 1943.
http://www.battlefield.ru/index.php?...d=49&Itemid=50
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Now removed from the unit..
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February 18th, 2007, 03:01 AM
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Re: Soviet Union SPOB 11 KV-1 tank-gun confusion.
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Interesting, The Kv-85 did not have a BMG.
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The first KV-85s were re-worked from excess KV-1S hulls, welding up the hole for the ball-mounted hull machine gun. The incorrect opinion has appeared in Western literature that there was a "second version" of the KV-85 with a flexible front machine gun. This confusion most likely arose as a result of study by Western experts of the only KV-85 tank that has been preserved to this day (monument in Avtovo, St.Peterburg), where a mistake was made in the restoration process. According to archival data, 148 KV-85 tanks were produced; they were sent to the front beginning in September 1943. Simultaneously, output of the KV-1S tank was continued until December 1943.
http://www.battlefield.ru/index.php?...d=49&Itemid=50
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3MGs...
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February 18th, 2007, 03:07 AM
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Re: Soviet Union SPOB 11 KV-1 tank-gun confusion.
It says in the post you just quoted that the one in the monument was inaccurately reproduced with regards to the BMG. The link from which that statement was taken has a number of historical photos which would appear to back up the claim.
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February 18th, 2007, 03:36 AM
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Re: Soviet Union SPOB 11 KV-1 tank-gun confusion.
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It says in the post you just quoted that the one in the monument was inaccurately reproduced with regards to the BMG. The link from which that statement was taken has a number of historical photos which would appear to back up the claim.
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It seems to be. KV-1s with 85mm gun (in the first picture.) is reason of my mistake.
Excuse my bad English.
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February 18th, 2007, 03:52 AM
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Re: Soviet Union SPOB 11 KV-1 tank-gun confusion.
yeah, it is likely the same tank, but before it was placed on the momument. The link suggests that there is only on KV-85 remaining and that's it, which would seem to support the idea that the relatively modern picture you posted would be of the same vehicle too.
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February 18th, 2007, 04:07 AM
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Re: Soviet Union SPOB 11 KV-1 tank-gun confusion.
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yeah, it is likely the same tank, but before it was placed on the momument
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This is another tank in Kubinka armor museum.
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February 18th, 2007, 03:58 AM
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Re: Soviet Union SPOB 11 KV-1 tank-gun confusion.

Fixed front machine gun...
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