The Quick and The Dead [ Calmon WINS!! ]

Rathar · #1 March 11th, 2007, 04:29 PM

Bug or feature?

Utterdark makes Agarthans suffer the effects of darkness in battle although while the relevant stats such as precision and attack go down they don't state the cause.

This became instantly apparent in a battle with abysia. Their stats were down and it stated darkness as the reason while mine went down the same amount but with no reason stated.

Seemingly small but definitely going to kill me

Rathar

msew · #2 March 11th, 2007, 04:36 PM

utterdark destroying all income is the real killer there.

No income means all the troops go bye bye. except for ermor's :-(

Yeah we are deadmeat.

KissBlade · #3 March 11th, 2007, 04:52 PM

Alchemize the gems you're not using into astrals and send it to me. I'll drop all his globals.

msew · #4 March 11th, 2007, 06:29 PM

anyone know where the ermor pretender is? hiding under water somewhere?

Ironhawk · #5 March 11th, 2007, 06:37 PM

I agree that the game is likely over. We should not have allowed Ermor to grow as strong as he was. Or listened to the nonsense from Caelum and Ermor about how he was a paper tiger. My congrats to Ermor for a skillfully played game tho.

That said: I have never experienced Utterdark before and I have to say that I think it is overpowered. Vastly so! Not only does it effect income, which is understandable. But it also effects Precision. And Attack. And Defense!!!! Its insane. So, not only is your economy destroyed - which would be bad enough - but your ability to mount any defense is also destroyed. I can seriously not think of a "correct" cost for this spell given that it basically just wins the game for you at a stroke (unless it is dispeled). There is no other level 9 spell which even comes close to this level of power.

KissBlade · #6 March 11th, 2007, 07:07 PM

Wasn't the original cost of it 150? I find 100 a bit low but really it's also a level 9 alteration ...

Ironhawk · #7 March 11th, 2007, 09:01 PM

Not sure of the original cost. But I was serious about not being able to thing of a correct cost for the spell. Effectively, casting this spell is like saying "how many gems do you want to use to win the game?". How can you put a pricetag on that?

And yes, I know it can be dispelled. But that is besides the point. The fact is that you have a spell which not only cripples the economy but additionally the complete fighting power of any nation of any size.

KissBlade · #8 March 11th, 2007, 09:38 PM

Hehe Ironhawk, you sound like a tired old vet getting confused by all these spells people are chucking at ya. First Wailing Wind then this. ^_^

solo · #9 March 11th, 2007, 10:33 PM

I think I agree with Ironhawk on this one. Utterdark is cheap, considering how powerful it can be. Many other pricey spells hardly come close in providing such useful benefits to the caster. I have used it once to snatch a victory from an opponent who had previously dominated an MP game I was playing in.

Ironhawk · #10 March 12th, 2007, 02:05 AM

Quote:

KissBlade said:
Hehe Ironhawk, you sound like a tired old vet getting confused by all these spells people are chucking at ya. First Wailing Wind then this. ^_^

Hahahah! - Ironhawk the Great Sage

"IM OLD!!! MY BONES ACHE!!"

Heheheheh. But more seriously, that was the intent of this game, right? In all the games I've played, I die or am declared winner before any of the really high spells see common use. But in this one I got battered by them left and right

Compared to Utterdark tho, Wailing Winds is a joke. Maybe a little underpriced but in a wayyyy different league than it.

As for the next game: there will be one and you are of course all invited. But this one isnt over till its over. Lets see if Ermor really has to strength to tear the VP from my cold dead fingers.