The Quick and The Dead [ Calmon WINS!! ]

calmon · #1 March 13th, 2007, 03:26 PM

Server hosted after my turn was in but didn't seem to generate a turn in moment.

Well Utterdark is mostly good for undead nations. LA ermor is a nation with big advantages (like free undead hords & utterdark) and with big disadvantages too (rare mages and very good counterable).

So its a little bit short-sighted to say utterdark is too strong. Its only usefull for a very few nations and this nations have big disadvantages.

Ironhawk · #2 March 13th, 2007, 04:08 PM

I crashed the server in protest of Utterdark!!!!! Heheheh, just kidding.

Not sure what's wrong but I wont be able to check on my computer until I get home - about six hours from now.

Utterdark is definitely only usefull for Ermor and perhaps in select cases for nations with Darkvision like Aby or Agartha. But just because its limited to certain nations doesnt mean its not overpowered. I am still waiting for someone to come up with another level 9 spell which even comes close to Utterdark in power...

calmon · #3 March 13th, 2007, 04:30 PM

Personally i find arcance nexus the strongest global. Every turn this spell is in game it gives the caster more gems to recast a stronger version in future.

I always got stomach pain

if someone cast this one and it needs an immediate counter action.

LA ermor is very special, try it out in the next game ironhawk

. Maybe you'll change your mind after losing some big undead armies to counterforces which you didn't really hurt.

mivayan · #4 March 14th, 2007, 06:33 PM

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calmon said:
Personally i find arcance nexus the strongest global. Every turn this spell is in game it gives the caster more gems to recast a stronger version in future.

I always got stomach pain

if someone cast this one and it needs an immediate counter action.

How strong can it be in bigger games? Like, pay back it's 150 gem cost every turn?

I'm out of the next one, I need some weeks without any daily turns. Sounds fun to try different ages.

Potatoman · #5 March 14th, 2007, 07:43 PM

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How strong can it be in bigger games? Like, pay back it's 150 gem cost every turn?

I had it up for a while in newbie game 2, and it regularly brought back 200+ gems every turn. A very worthwhile spell.

KissBlade · #6 March 15th, 2007, 02:48 AM

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How strong can it be in bigger games? Like, pay back it's 150 gem cost every turn?

I had it up for a while in newbie game 2, and it regularly brought back 200+ gems every turn. A very worthwhile spell.

Did you notice a 200+ astral gem increase or did it just say it brought 200+? Because if I recall, the message is bugged. You actually receive 1/4th of the gems it states.

Ironhawk · #7 March 15th, 2007, 03:35 AM

Ok, we've had two votes for EA and one for MA (from irc). Everyone else chime in with what age you want most. I'll start the next game thread after I've heard a couple more votes.

FAJ · #8 March 13th, 2007, 05:40 PM

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Ironhawk said:
I am still waiting for someone to come up with another level 9 spell which even comes close to Utterdark in power...

Anyone ever try to Wish for "Win the game"?

Ironhawk · #9 March 13th, 2007, 05:53 PM

I dont believe that Arcane Nexus is comparable. While it definitely does produce a lot of gems it effects neither the military or economic capabilities of any other nation.

No, you misunderstand - I dont have a problem with LA Ermor. There are plenty of tactics and counters to fight an undead nation. While the sheer mass of undead is overwhelming sometimes, they dont otherwise concern me.

Ironhawk · #10 March 13th, 2007, 11:08 PM

Ok, the server is back up.

In other news: My pretenders attempt to relieve the seige at my capital has failed (tho he did take about 200 undead with him). Since Utterdark is basically invincible I am now willing to concede the game. If everyone else consents we can just wrap this up and get started on the next one.