Could u stop Gorgon?

[Xietor]

Who said she has so few hps? In her own dom, she has plenty enough to make regen worthwhile, especially as i have 3 regens that stack on her.

[Xietor]

eye shield does wonders against a cyclops, and they are cheap to make and can get them early.

[Xietor]

The more i think about it, i use staff of storms against caleum to keep them from flying. If i was concerned about flying banes, i think i would have someone with a staff of storms with my gorgon, perhaps a faerie queen.

[TirAsleen]

cyclops still useful to expand early and later he can send his army against those eye abusers. i feal more secure with more hp when playing a SC, eyeloss does not affect that. using SC only with high dominion in home domains does not make up for a good SC, as speed is everything in TBS games, sure no time to wait for preaching priests and spreading domains. maybe i do some test battle cyclops vs gorgon with eyeshild will be sure fun

[Xietor]

Gorgon is the best pretender for Pangaea. Mid game she kicks *** with const. 4 items, mistform, mirror image. I give her 3 air. mages can search death effectively. That leaves astral, water, fire, as missing gems. But you can typically get mercenary mages that can find these gems, or conquer a castle or 2 that gives you access, or you stumble across enchantress or another independent that can search for these.

Anyway, Pangaea has an abundance of the gems that matter most-nature. And the earth/air/nature gorgon allows for crafting of some very nice items with both high armor, air shield, low encumbrance.

So while some rainbow god may give you quicker access to gems you do not really need, you would be passing up a killer sc, that is unique to only your race in MA. And in late game, when you use the gorgon more in the role of a caster, she can crush opponents with blade wind and petrify spells and not get fatigued. the 3 air i give her, plus the 3 experience she typically has from clearing squares, she has a very good precision. And if a horde of undead make it back to her, she petrifys most of them.

And petrify is, imho, the best ability a pretender can have. whether it is a horror, or anything else, they have to pass that mr check or die before they can attempt to harm her. Flying is also very nice for a sc. Gorgon can use an item at every slot, and she is so much better than a dragon or manticore that it is not funny.

Granted, she cannot be use offensively in enemy dominion with her low hps, but she owns in her own dominion. And even
pretenders with super high hps are vulnerable in enemy dominion, so it is never too wise to use any pretender in enemy dominion anyway.

[TirAsleen]

whats the purpose of this post? gorgon is much better or much more fun? in all cases i have to disagree...

its good vs low magic res troops. those spells you mentioned any SC can use but most of the time at reduced design point cost. good choices for Pangaea as SC are white and black bull as well. no need for items, they can healthemselves, like gorgon have trample and with personal regeneration cast and high dominion they are hp tanks. you can also try cast mistform, quickness, body ethereal and all these things as well, it will cost less. in direct combat vs high res units with high strenght and attack you'd better play these. 30hp is really too fragile for SC. as said, forge aegis shield and use it with a humanoid titan-like pretender with a lot more hp and cheaper magic paths and its the same as gorgon just better if you like powerplay so much.

[Nick_K]

I don't play MP so I couldn't say for sure, but I imagine that an SC designed to kill her could scrag the gorgon even in strong friendly dominion. Such an SC could easily fly into battle, so it would be difficult for her to avoid it.

Of course, if you really want to find out, try playing your gorgon in mp against the guys from this thread who are sure they could destroy her. That'd give an answer as to who's right!

[Xietor]

true that. I typically play Dom III with real life friends, though that does limit your exposure to new strategies.

How about the gorgon wearing the aegis, do potential killers have to pass a double petrification check before getting to attack?

To the question posed above, the original question is how you can kill a gorgon. And there have been some good suggestions.
That i like playing the gorgon is obvious. And I disagree that a titan is better or cheaper. Look at the titans available to MA Pangaea, and tell me which is better?

Petrification is available from the outset, not at const 8. poison resistance is the best resistance to have.

flying is also a must. Which titans fly? Which titans heal their own afflictions? Which ones have fear plus 5?

It is all a matter of preference. I laugh at the manual's suggestion of using an awake alchemist for Ulm. That is all well and good if you enjoy having a pretender whose main function is to hunt for gem sites. I personally do not enjoy playing that style. I like a pretender that can fight. And I like one that can fly to get to fights in a hurry. And there are items that can reduce an enemy's chance to resist petrification. And taking a magic scale also makes enemies less likely to resist petrification, as well as helping those expensive pans along with their research.

I also am a firm believer in having all your slots for items. the bull may have more hps, but he has 2 slots. End game if he goes trampling into high end troops and a row of mages, he is toast. The gorgon, with items, is a great caster. And there is no comparison between trample and petrification. One exhausts your pretender, one can kill 30 enemies and you take no fatigue.