Could u stop Gorgon?

[TirAsleen]

check strenght of dragons and as a flyer he can reach you before having those items too.alteration let him cast enough buffs and he has not to worry you come close to him with these hp. recuperation is only really worth on high hp pretenders and units. does not matter much when you die in 2 hits, eh? btw, we can have a game with my other 2 friends any time if you wish, if you have time you can join there. while i think her petrification is kinda unbalanced vs most troops and especially indies, she is really toast against any physically strong high res unit, white/black bull, kraken alone high hp with powerful attacks and recuperation. and they can kill indies too without petrification and a lot of armies ,but thing is, they can kill that gorgon in some few seconds, except she is in her own dominion and manages to fly away. its not all that impressive. and strats based on forging weapons are not impressive either, in middle/late game you can a lot of other things too. like 6000 undead coming for you with summons to waste your dust to dust spells.

i was impressed by gorgon too and thought she is maybe best SC and horribly unbalanced and i wanted to ban her....until i saw whats happen if something big comes at her. so in a SC contest she is rather at a disadvantage with those hps.

[Graeme Dice]

How is a dragon going to hurt a pretender with mistform or etherealness? Dragons are thugs for expansion, and are not a particularly well suited chassis for killing SCs. A white or black bull will have absolutely no effect on a Gorgon, since they'll just attempt to trample her, and probably do about two or three damage per turn. Any unit with multiple attacks such as the Kraken is essentially asking to be killed by petrification, especially when you can't get their MR above 22 outside of their dominion. The ancient kraken also doesn't have a magical weapon, and doesn't have a particularly impressive attack score, so he'll have trouble hitting and damaging a mistformed or ethereal gorgon.

[Xietor]

Umm no, your dragon cannot reach my gorgon before she has 7 construction 4 items. I sleep her for the extra 150 points, and you can make 7 really good items with 4 const researched and nature games. The 1st thing i research is constr 4.

And while the dragon is mighty naked, I would not think flying him into enemy dominion and letting 20 minotaurs beat on him is a good idea. Minotaurs do some hefty damage to pretenders, and their attack is decent when berserk, and their damage is very good, maybe even excellent.

Against a pretender early in the game, id likely give her an sword sharpness, an eye shield, black steel plate, horned helmet, birch boots, ring of regeneration, amulet of resilience or bear claw. If i had dagan prior to the fight i would make a luck pendant to go with the ring of regeneration. I get dagan early about 60 percent of my games.

[TirAsleen]

well, as said we can play and dragon was just a thought, with some buffs he can kill her anti magic amulet seems required to battle gorgon in her dominion. ghost king with his ghosts can kill gorgon too. i made some test, both had mirror image, mistform, ethereal, and so on. mistform and mirror image also protects well from dust to dust. so speaking about this magic just means that is strong not necessarly your gorgon, not when magic res is high enough. there is the anti magic spell for that and item. and you can provide friendly dominion too. and if gorgon is so mighty and ubber it needs a heavy nerf? why do we have nerfed VQ and stillt hat gorgon around then? this makes no sense then.

[Graeme Dice]

TirAsleen said:
well, as said we can play and dragon was just a thought, with some buffs he can kill her anti magic amulet seems required to battle gorgon in her dominion.

An antimagic amulet is essentially required for any SC in any battle if you want them to survive for the long term. Whether your pretender is outside of your dominion or not has little bearing on that.

mistform and mirror image also protects well from dust to dust.

Neither mistform nor mirror image have any effect whatsoever on dust to dust. Mistform could only possibly have an effect on a spell that causes mundane damage, while mirror image would only have any effect on spells that fire projectiles and do not cause area of effect effects.

and if gorgon is so mighty and ubber it needs a heavy nerf?

Where on earth are you getting this idea from? I'm simply pointing out that the supposed counter of a monstrous pretender is one of the worst possible choices.

Could you please use proper capitalization and punctuation to make your posts less difficult to read?

[TirAsleen]

graeme dice, i do not take you any serious with your righteous behaviour, its from my expierence a very childish way to communicate. besides you post wrong things here.

mirror image and mistform does protect against dust to dust spell i tested it today.

pls do you research before posting, its possible you might be wrong, even if you do not think so. thank you.

[Gandalf Parker]

Shifting from subject to personal attacks will get the thread closed.

[Edi]

TirAsleen, you're not going to get very far with that attitude. Graeme may be putting things rather bluntly, but for the most part he is correct. Your dismissal of his argument just because he didn't take the most diplomatic approach is very poor form.

Mistform probably protects against Dust to Dust, since Dust to Dust causes physical damage to undead. Mirror image does not protect against it at all, because it is an area effect spell.

So the admonition to doing your research before posting applies to you as well.

Furthermore, the lack of capitalization and punctuation IS annoying because it means that reading and comprehending your posts takes five times as long as it normally would.