List top 3 MA MP races

Evilhomer · #1 April 14th, 2007, 06:29 PM

MA is easily the most balanced era i think, so yes most nations can do well.

Xietor · #2 April 14th, 2007, 06:44 PM

Spelling fantasy names has never been my strong point(:

Xietor · #3 April 14th, 2007, 07:45 PM

I had actually included Ermor in my original 3, but realized the R'lyeh could not be left out.

Caelum and the Giants, both have their strong points, but I just cannot tolerate races whose pd is totally useless.

Shovah32 · #4 April 14th, 2007, 07:55 PM

Rlyeh and shinuyama are both pretty good due to their strong magical powers and good ranged armies(mind blasters and cheap flaming arrows respectively) and i would rate them among the top. My third choice is a little harder but i would probably go with Ctis.

Ctis has good death and nature access aswell as some water and astral(or good astral with couatl). They have fairly good general purpose troops(heavy infantry and elite warriors), great skele spam capability, poison slingers who work great with skele spam, good national summons, strong priests, great assasins and a very good dominion(40 free points from heat, income bonus for themselves, income penalty for others, disease for living, non cold-blooded troops).

For a miamasa pretender a Dom9(10 is too expensive) Prince of death works great. His death magic fits in with the national magic, the national mages can forge a variety of useful items, the PoD is a great early game expander, raider and late game SC and is also immune to the disease dominion(which spreads quickly with dom9).

Xietor · #5 April 14th, 2007, 08:56 PM

Ctis is not in my top 3 for a couple of reasons.

They have no ranged troops, and cannot effectively augment their troops with independents(because they are not immune to disease). Mercenaries can be used, but they also get diseased, which s not too bad since you use them for 3 turns.

If you play a map with lots of water squares, Ctis cannot defend those against water races too well. Its dominion kills off the indies you purchase.

Ctis sacred is weak, and their best infantry is just sufficient. Poison slingers have short range, and many times you poison your own troops.

They do have awesome priests. When I play Ctis i use a dom 10 awake Wyrm for early expansion. He can solo provinces, sea or land, on turn 2. Cash never seems to be a problem for ctis, marsh masters mages do not have old age, are good researchers, and ctis has access to many magics.

Shovah32 · #6 April 14th, 2007, 09:19 PM

A dom10 wyrm costs the same as a dom9 5 death PoD who is more viable late game due to slots yet still a very capable expander. The poison slingers are fairly good ranged troops and should be used with undead to avoid friendly casualties, the undead can also be used for underwater expansion and defence. Their sacreds may be weak but their national summons are tough and i wouldnt say their national troops are just sufficient; they have high prot infantry with shields, poison slingers who can work with undead and, of course they also have the elite warriors and runners who are very dangerous.

Xietor · #7 April 14th, 2007, 10:19 PM

I agree Ctis is tough.

Just not in my top 3. You said they were your 3rd pick as well, so we may not be disagreeing that much.

I cannot see Ctis>Ermor, but that is just me. Can take POD with ermor as well, better sacreds, infantry that is tougher, does not rout often(problem with ctis), better battle mages, good priests, plenty of death and astral abilities.