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		| Shovah32 said: But a pretender who increases growth in a single province wouldnt be such a big deal would it?
 
 |  In your capital it would, if you took gowth-3 and had a pretender that doubled that for example and then took order-3 on top.  You would be stinkingly rich and money talks early on in the game, more troops, more mages, more castles etc...
 
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				April 15th, 2007, 07:26 PM
			
			
			
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		| Meglobob said: 
 
	In your capital it would, if you took gowth-3 and had a pretender that doubled that for example and then took order-3 on top.  You would be stinkingly rich and money talks early on in the game, more troops, more mages, more castles etc...Quote: 
	
		| Shovah32 said: But a pretender who increases growth in a single province wouldnt be such a big deal would it?
 
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 |  Yes, if it "doubled that" it would.  But that need not be the answer.  What if it increased your growth rate (0.2-0.6% if your dominion is positive) itself by 10 or 20%  +20% on 0.6% increases the total to 0.72%.  The difference in the long run could be considerable, but virtually nothing in the short run- and the short run is the time when it's exploitable, when your home province is the heart and soul and entirety of your income.
			
			
			
			
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				April 15th, 2007, 07:40 PM
			
			
			
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 Having growth in just the capital would do wonders for old capital-only mages. |  
	
		
	
	
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				April 15th, 2007, 07:54 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Lord of fertility 
  I think the math works out better if it's a fixed # of population per month rather than a %. For one thing, it becomes less like "more growth". 
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				April 15th, 2007, 08:35 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Lord of fertility 
  The fact is right now he is a useless pretender. No one uses him. Might as well just remove him from the game, he will not be missed.
 If he actually did something useful like increase growth, maybe(though it certainly still would not be me) someone would take him to help their old mages in their capital, and to increase income slowly.
 
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 I had envisioned him as just increasing population, not providing the other growth effects.  But that was just my thought. |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: Lord of fertility 
 Ahh, it is a cornucopia, now I understand.  I still think it looks like a big carrot he is going to beat people with, but appreciate the clarification.  I must say, for a low graphic game, I have seen relatively few graphics like this.  
 BTW, I like the one about the orange troops and the one about handing out condoms!
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				 Re: Lord of fertility 
 IIRC, the LoF is sometimes the _only_ Titan-like Pretender with Nature magic inherent that a nation has access to.
 If that is true, he does have a use.
 
 If you want to improve him, give him an ability to give a random good event that can only be selected from the 'growth' events.  Y'know, the ones that generally increase the growth scale of the province, etc.  Sort of like the Lady of Fortune, but more limited.
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				 Re: Lord of fertility 
 I bet you didn't know this. The lord of fertility gives giant carrots to feed his troops. Not only are the carrots nutritous but they turn armies orange, striking fear into the hearts of the enemies.
 Either that or the LOF sure could use a better looking cornucopia.
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