Suggestion for a mod-nation. Would require a patch

[HoneyBadger]

Well, it seems (and this can be looked up easily on the internet) that there are lots of stories and legends about a race of giants in North America. These stories are very interesting, because they're coming out of the 19th and early 20th century, from settlers, rather than from pre-Columbian times.

Apparently, there were gigantic humanoids (between 7 and 12 feet or more tall) in Tennessee, Ohio, Kansas, Wisconsin, California, Indiana, Minnesota, and New York. They share other traits than bigness, too. They almost universally had a double row of teeth (this trait comes up again and again) and usually red hair-although some legends tell that the red haired giants displaced other black haired giants. Lots of skeletons were apparently found-especially skulls, and with artifacts, like stone axes.

So, I was thinking, why not a giant Native American influenced nation? Kind of shine a light on these rather interesting stories. I can provide more details about this, if you or anyone else is interested.

Here's one link:

http://www.stevequayle.com/Giants/N.Am/N.Am.html

I typed "Giants in North America" in Google to find it.


It might be that the scientific community is doing some covering up, because I've read quite a depressing few accounts about these discovered bones "disappearing" into various institutions.

Maybe it's a conspiracy, maybe the whole thing is just made up, but usually there's an element of truth in such a broadly-told lie.

[HoneyBadger]

P.S. Beware that some of the sites which relate these stories have a religious agenda-namely linking the bones to Biblical stories of "giants in the earth" and "Nephilim".

I don't have such an agenda, I assure you, so please feel free to take such claims with as much salt as is to your taste.

[VedalkenBear]

... odd. I would find it much more unbelievable that the settlers who you refer to, being overwhelmingly Christian in their religion, would _not_ relate these stories to something they were more familiar with (i.e., the Nephilim).

As far as a nation goes... how would this be different from the giant nations we have already or will soon have?

[HoneyBadger]

Well, that's a very simple question to answer.

How are the *human* nations we already have different from one another?

It will just take some creativity and imagination on the part of whoever wants to do a nation mod to make them distinct and exciting-and without that creativity, it doesn't matter what the origins are-and in this case, there isn't a lot known about the culture in question.

They were mound-builders, they worked with regular human natives-who may have bred with the original "dog-headed giants" to produce hybrids. They seem to have preceded the Indian tribes that were in the area when the settlers showed up. They used stone weapons but also seem to have had some metal-working ability. They may have been involved in a massive states-wide war around 1000ad. There's quite a lot of anomalous material in the United States that could be tied in-the copper pit-mines in Michegan, the iron furnaces in Ohio, the article in Smithsonian Magazine about the lost city in the Grand Canyon, Vikings and Chinese explorers. The mounds and mound-builders themselves-and ofcourse your basic, everyday Indian culture, myths, legends, spirits, and monsters. All sorts of interesting, weird details that could be drawn on.

It's kind of like brine shrimp-just add giants and your imagination!