More 'peaceful' tech/components (esp. stellar manip)

[Phoenix-D]

"Because the facilities are partly underground, increase the structure rating by more than double."

Hate to break it to you, but facilities don't *have* structure Ratings. It's pre-defined.

Phoenix-D

[President_Elect_Shang]

Regarding the Dyson Sphere. I have never liked that part. I believe that when Dyson proposed the sphere it was based on the idea that a Type II civilization would need to harness the power of its star(s) by building a (not necessarily solid) sphere of energy gathering colonies or satellites. So building a Dyson Sphere Planet(?) is moving away from the spirit of the idea. I have started tinkering with a construct that is built around a sun and generates resources. I.E. minerals, organics, etc. Once again off of the "original idea" but at least it is closer to the starting point than a planet type people live on (in) and build houses in, factories, shoppong malls, need I say more?

[Loknar]

For right now, as the stellar manipulation to create artifical planets/colonies anywhere (not nessicarily using asteroids) is not avaible, there is a way to simulate it. Using a space yard ship, filled with population, you could build an outpost in the middle of an empty system, such as a nebula. You could transfer some population onto the outpost, thus allowing it to essentially function sort of like a colony.

[dogscoff]

It's been talked about for a long time and I think that one of the best "bang for buck" changes Malfador could make would be to give modders the tools to allow pop growth and colony-like resource extraction from hulls. Then we could make all kinds of cool artificial colonis and constructs using that.

Here's a cool stellar manip idea as well: Plantary rings. You could probably mod this by putting astroids in the same place as a planet but it would be good if the game handled them seperately. They'd be just like asteroid fields, but with a different graphic and slightly different stellar manipulation handling.

For example: When creating a planet from a large / huge asteroid field there is a chance that rather than a large / huge planet being created, you will get a medium planet and a plantary ring (small/ tiny asteroid field), which can be turned into a moon. You could then have vast asteroid fields, which can yield a huge planet + moon or a large planet + 2 moons.

Actually, when you think about it, that's a damn good idea. Say I have a large planet with a tiny moon, and I destroy them both. Do I get on huge asteroid field or a large field + tiny field? If it's the latter, how is that possible? How can you have 2 asteroid fields in one place? Thats' just one bigger astroid field. It's like trying to dig half a hole.

So basically yeah (sorry, rambling now...) hr's what I propose, in a briefer and easier to understand format:
-Vast asteroid fields. (No vast planets though)
-Asteroid fields in the same square as a planet are labelled "planetary rings".
-Multiple astroid fields in the same square are amalgamated into one big field. (If that's not how it works already)
-Planet creation may not use all of an asteroid field: it might create a smaller planet and a small "leftover" plantary ring. Perhaps different tech levels could offer some control over this.
-Add to all this the ability to move astroid fields around the map using specialised components...

... and I reckon that would mak an extrmely cool upgrade to the stellar manip options. Some of it might not need to much hard coding either- quite a high "bang for the buck" rating.

[Grayhorse]

Dogscoff, I love your idea and it makes very good sense. I mean, when ever you have a planet that has 2 moons and you destroy the moons to get a better atmosphere for your race, it shows 2 asteroids. I like your proposal, its all random and would be a nice change.

One addition though. With the ability to destroy planets to make new ones, there should be an addon of sorts. If there happens to be a moon with that planet, then both moon and planet are destroyed to create a new set. And when the new planet/moons are created, it could be made random that instead of a planet and moons, you get just a planet and vice versa. Just a thought...