Dud nations

Shovah32 · #1 April 24th, 2007, 05:09 PM

Marverni?

Micah · #2 April 24th, 2007, 05:21 PM

How is Oceania tier 2 and Rlyeh dead last? Oceania sucks almost as much as Rlyeh does at getting out of the water and access to a lot of astral magic gives Rlyeh a decided late-game advantage.

Marignon also doesn't exist, and you used the number 2 twice. I think Ulm is also a lot better than you have them down as.

HoneyBadger · #3 April 24th, 2007, 05:21 PM

Sorry, I mixed up Marignon with Marverni-they sound alike.

HoneyBadger · #4 April 24th, 2007, 05:46 PM

Oceanea is 2 because if they were land-based, they'd pwn the game-they definitely pwn the oceans. They're on the same level as Helheim, if you take away the land/water factor, with slightly worse magic paths but slightly tougher sacreds. I guess you could move them down a bit because they're aquatic, but they're still a really solid nation.

Ulm and Marverni I ranked where I did more based on external factors than internal composition. They're balanced really well against themselves, but too many nations go through them like tissue-paper to call them strong. I've played them lots, and I enjoy them, but I can't give them a lot of love, because they're just not that tough. Atlantis and Yomi are tenacious and difficult to take out quickly, even in an early game, while Ulm and Marverni can be swept away by a tough nation-like Helheim-in the early game, unless they're well established-but that's just my opinion from playing them.