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I tested it, so I'm 100% sure Mind Lords are not Magic-Duel-Immune.  I fried a Mind Lord in a Magic Duel using an S9 Oceana pretender.    
			
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 I assume the mind lord died?
 
So that would seem to indicate that a tie results in both surviving rather than both dieing like the manual spell description clearly states.
 
I know magic duel works, because I have used it too good effect before against Acro.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Didn't magic duel become less lethal a while back? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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I assume the mind lord died? 
 
So that would seem to indicate that a tie results in both surviving rather than both dieing like the manual spell description clearly states. 
			
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 Yeah, vanished in a puff of blue protoplasm or whatever it is Mind Lords are made of.
 
I'll create an S3 Oceana pretender instead and run a few tests, I should only have to run it a few times before I get a tie.
 
Edit: I ran a ton of tests. When it was tied, both died.  Code:
   
castspell: cnr19 spl271 (Magic Duel) vis3 x37 y15 spldmg999 
vis 3 xvis 2 
blastsqr: unr252 x37 y15 aoe1 dmg999 eff27 spc8388736 as10225 al9 
  affectvic vic505 hv0 
hitunit 252 505 dmg999 spec8388736 ba-1 
damage 505 dmg1006 spec0 ba-1 
looseallitems: cnr 22(Geth) unr 505 
damage 252 dmg1006 spec0 ba-1 
looseallitems: cnr 19(Vukan) unr 252 
    
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		Last idea: Bob, was the mage who cast Magic Duel holding a Pendant of Luck?  Did your mage cast Twist Fate/Personal Luck before Magic Duel?  He may have lost the duel, but taken no damage because of the pendant/spells. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		For a truly unlikely idea, does the 999 damage involve open ended die roles? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Ha ha ha.  Yes it does.  That's why you see dmg1006 above.  I'm guessing the mage had a pendant though. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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Last idea: Bob, was the mage who cast Magic Duel holding a Pendant of Luck?  Did your mage cast Twist Fate/Personal Luck before Magic Duel?  He may have lost the duel, but taken no damage because of the pendant/spells.  
			
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		I was testing out Magic Duel a while ago and I saw in a very small percentage of cases someone just wouldn't die even though the graphic comes up.  It might be Luck or Twist Fate, or there might just be a 1% survival chance. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Does twist fate protect against mind duel? Then you could twist fate before you attempted the spell. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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