Western OPFOR in Durango Valley

Marek_Tucan · #1 May 1st, 2007, 04:39 PM

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pdoktar said:
Maybe professional armies are better conducting war operations, but novadays it seems that the real war starts, when the operations are over. Then I might disagreee, because given the civilian nature of consctripts, they should be better at ending those wars, and getting people to side for them not against, as we see in Iraq.

OTOH the public miht be even more sensitive to the casaulties. After all today the agitprop types tend to say in 50% of cases (atleast here) "These mercenaries just deserved it, doing it for the money" and all that, while with conscripts dying it would be "you see they took this young man away from his family and now killed him"...

loktarr · #2 May 2nd, 2007, 10:43 AM

I have some balance problems now, because US troop are so expensive. Against one mixed M1A1/ M2A2 coy, EU can deploy one Leo 2A4 co, one AMX 30Brennus Co and one Italian light tank co. It's a bit to much for our poor US tankers.

PlasmaKrab · #3 May 3rd, 2007, 08:58 AM

IMHO you should think more in terms of force size. The OPFOR in this scenario gets one tank platoon, one mech platoon and complete infantry support units first thing, then a reduced tank co (9 tanks) with 2 mech plts as reinforcements.
In the various avatars of this scenario I have patched up in the past (good materials test range even if the morale is buggy) I tried to give the initial defense troops lower-end tanks and keep the top-notch versions for the reinforcements. E.g. you could use Leo2A4s and Leo1A5s (or AMX30B2s), facing only M1A1s which shouldn't be any more expensive than the Leo2s.

loktarr · #4 May 3rd, 2007, 09:04 AM

The price problem is mainly due to hight cost of M2AXs, but now, I think I have something correct...

loktarr · #5 May 4th, 2007, 06:29 AM

Here it is. Maybe too easy, maybe not. I achieved major victory first time I played it.

But however this is difficult to get rid of the leopards 2A4 that are present. Infantery is now a key of the scen and not only armored forces.

RecruitMonty · #6 May 17th, 2007, 02:42 PM

Maybe these days conscript forces are inferior but quite frankly that was not always the case. The German army in WWII and WWI was a conscript force and it was good.
The Soviet forces were also conscripts and the flagship formations were good too. Same goes for the East Germans. The reason why conscript forces don't work these days is because they either belong to third world countries or they belong to pacifist or purely defensive countries who are trying to phase their conscription out.

pdoktar · #7 May 18th, 2007, 04:03 AM

Well, the Finns did also quite well in WW2 with conscript forces. I think we were the only warring country, that wasn�t occupied in Europe besides Great Britain (Russia not included). And the problem with professional armies is that in small countries they are too expensive to maintain in large enough numbers to make any difference in a serious large-scale conventional war. Conscript armies in small countries has numbers to make a difference.