Afterthought - (Winner: Baalz as R'yeh!)

[Eressil3]

Manuk said:

and that you have not allied with him from before the game started?

Please remember it's a game ! And please don't fall in the conspiracy theory !

If you want the detailed story here it is . There is no big conspiracy behind :

- I'm a beginner. I played in few games and I believe Baalz was not in. I don't know him.

- You (Manuk) sent me an alarming message (turn 2 or 3) about R'lyeh. Something like :"prepare your armies, R'lyeh he's not in a diplomatic mood !!!"
- I found this message rather odd so early in the game. Therefore *I* made the first step toward R'lyeh to judge him by myself.
- R'lyeh seemed pretty diplomatic. So *I* (not him) suggested an alliance to crush Oceania. Sorry Manuk but I don't like to be pushed by strange alarming messages. Baalz answered something like "Why not ? But not now..." He wanted to destroy another nation.

So you see Manuk : you was not pre-targeted by Baalz but by me !

Why ? Because our scouts knows what you're hiding inside your walls !!! Here is a report !

[Velusion]

Eressil3 said:

Hah!

[Szumo]

Underwater war over tits. Sounds like fun

[Manuk]

allright. I will send the chicks as soon as they defeat me but only to someone who will fight them.

[tromper]

I have noticed that diplomatic efforts and agreements often get confused, at least in larger games. What I've started doing is writing down what I've agreed to. Or better yet, use the forum mail system to have something to refer to in the future if need be.

But I feel sort of badly for Manuk anyway, as declaring a 'Yes!' to an obviously confused player regarding normal-ish diplomacy efforts seems rather inconsiderate and reserved for 'win at all costs' sorts of players, of which there are many. It would have been very easy to ask for clarification instead of just deluding the guy, but hey, just my opinion.

Don't let this tick you off too much, Manuk, there'll be other games comin' up. You can always drop out of a sign-up if you see someone you strongly dislike or something. And every lesson is hard. And not because of the mermaids.

[Velusion]

This will be the second turn Vathmoth has staled. If I don't hear from him by tomorrow afternoon I'll put Mictlan on AI.

[Szumo]

Sorry for putting you out of game so quickly WSzaboPeter, but i had to expand somewhere, so one of my neighbours had to go
See you in another game perhaps.

[Eressil3]

tromper said:
But I feel sort of badly for Manuk anyway, as declaring a 'Yes!' to an obviously confused player regarding normal-ish diplomacy efforts seems rather inconsiderate and reserved for 'win at all costs' sorts of players, of which there are many. It would have been very easy to ask for clarification instead of just deluding the guy, but hey, just my opinion.

It's a one sided view of things.

Why do you assume he was *obviously* confused ??!!
When I received the "NAP ?" question, I was really confused. That was the first time I saw such kind of "NAP". I was pretty sure that not putting details or breaking condition was a way to backstab me later... A NAP can't just be an indefinite NAP or it's not one.

That's true, I did not ask for further details but he did neither... You should consider that. What were his true motives ? Did you ask yourself this question ?
Now it's easy to call for treason !
I had bad intentions and I do think he had some too.

I will not defend myself anymore. I told what I had to tell and how I lived this little story.

No ! I forgot this one : I'm not either a 'win at all costs' sort of player... And I find this rather offending.

Now let's hunt some mermaid !

[Szumo]

How many turns has Mitclan missed now? Perhaps it's time to set it to AI?