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				 Re: Awesome units/spells 
 They have DomPPP era scripts, which have things like "Attack Commanders", "Attack Mages", "Fire Commanders" and "Fire Mages" available. They are still in the game, just not available to players anymore, haven't been since DomPPP. |  
	
		
	
	
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 So, is this a bug? |  
	
		
	
	
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				May 17th, 2007, 07:57 PM
			
			
			
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 I would say this is a bug, and anyone who 'saves their commands' is cheating.   |  
	
		
	
	
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				May 17th, 2007, 08:09 PM
			
			
			
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 I agree that it's a bug.  Have fun exploiting it against the AI in SP, but please don't do this in MP. 
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 I'm glad to know about this; I've wondered why I had such horrible luck shielding my commanders from the Dark Knight, and thanks to Shovah I know why--the DK is cheating.    But now I can also counter it.
 
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 Well, if anybody is worried about it, it has been reported and we'll see if this avenue of exploitation is going to get a roadblock in the next patch. |  
	
		
	
	
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 Awesome spell: Magma Eruption. 
Everybody enthuses about Blade Wind, but somehow Blade Wind doesn't satisfy my craving for wanton destruction. On the other hand, I love seeing Magma Eruption blow gaping holes in charging barbarian hordes. AOE 5 (+1 per extra level) and dmg 23 (+1), not resistable with fire resistance; it is so very, very satisfying, even with relatively poor precision on the units that tend to be able to cast it. Would you rather moderately wound 10 units with Blade Wind, or kill 6 with Magma Eruption? And the fatigue cost is lower, too.
 
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 eh, its been known of since dom 2. can't be that big a deal if it's been brewing this long with no response. |  
	
		
	
	
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 hmmm...  maybe i shoulda kept quiet.  lol-
 seriously though-  capturing bogus and crew is tougher than it initially sounds.  you're going to need to a) research the necessary spells to charm them and a few handy items to increase your effectiveness.  b) have an effective defense against the heroes who are scripted to kill your mages/commanders while being close enough so that the heroes are w/in the range of your charm spell.  c) do all this research while protecting the province against other players who may rather just take the province as well as protecting your nation as a whole.
 
 overcome any independents that might've built up over the interim while preserving bogus and crew.
 
 not to use high level astral mages, b/c obviously you don't want to enslave the heroes, since you lose all their items and benefits.
 
 in a SP, by the time u capture bogus and heroes, you're already on your way cleaning up and it just makes it a quicker finish.
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