OT- Argentina, what a country!

[dogscoff]

Andres,

Thank you for posting this here. I can see that it's something you wanted to say, and I think it reflects well on this forum that you chose to make yourself heard here, when there are so many other places on the internet you could have gone to.

As for Argentina's situation: I don't know what to say. There must be ordinary people in Argentina now facing choices they never thought they'd have to face. I go through life thinking I'll never have to deal with civil unrest, poverty or the possibility of civil war, but this goes to show taht none of us can afford to b complacent. I guess this is the kind of situation that really tests people - when an entire country faces a crisis like this, and the future is so uncertain is when you really find out who is actually strong enough to do the right thing.

Andres, all I can really offer to you and your compatriots is the following: Whatever happens next in Argentina, I hope you and those around you are able to make the right decisions for yourselves and your country. Good luck, and take care of yourselves.

[ 26 January 2002: Message edited by: dogscoff ]

[Shyrka]

Andrés, what is supposed to be the goal of Duhalde's "corralito"? He don't let people get their savings, and Spanish newspapers says that soon the government will transform all money in Dollars to Pesos. That will reduce dramatically Argentina's wealth. Or I'm wrong?

The Madrid Airport is flooded with Argentinean immigrants in transit to other Spanish provinces, specially Galicia, and all of them says the same about the political class. They are really disappointed, but all of them love Argentina, and are dreaming with the return. You're right, the people is united.

Spain was under a fascist military dictatorship for fifty years, and in the transition to democracy we were in a very similar situation of riots and civil unrest. Several small revolutions attempted to install new dictators, but we were very lucky: we had a King.

There are terrible times for your country Andrés, but it will end. Soon, I hope. I wish you luck, Andrés.

¡Viva Argentina!

[Master Belisarius]

Dear Andres: I was working during 4 months in Bs.As. and was in the "Microcentro" when De la Rúa was forced to leave the Last 20 of Dec. Really a bad experience, must say. Was like in the movies.
I think that Argentina is paying the price for the times of "Sushi y Pizas", and now, nobody in the world can help Argentina to avoid the current pain.
I believe that doesn't exist a magical solution, then, I can't understand the Last "Mega Cacerolazo" against Duhalde. 5 Presidents in 12 days was not enought?
I have family and friends in your country, and you know, my own country have close relations with Argentina, then, wish that Argentinea can overcome quickly their current problems, but honestly... I can't be optimist.
I'm really sad.

[Andrés]

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Andrés, what is supposed to be the goal of Duhalde's "corralito"? He don't let people get their savings, and Spanish newspapers says that soon the government will transform all money in Dollars to Pesos. That will reduce dramatically Argentina's wealth. Or I'm wrong?

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Saving the banks that don't have the money. And preventing people to take their depoists from the banks (to their houses or off country), leaving even less money in the banks making future retirements even more impossible.

Most dollars have already been converted to pesos. One of the problems is that we earn our money as (devaluated) pesos, but have many debts in dollars. One of the things that were being demanded these Last days, is that many of those debts are converted to pesos.

The "corralito" was started by Cavallo and De la Rúa, and it was that what made the people force them to leave.
Duhalde only made it even stricter. Of course that he said he had no option.
I don't know how to set if off. Emission of money can take us back to the situation on the late 80s and the hyperinflation.

Duhalde isn't better than De la Rúa or Rodriguez Saá.
Having him as president is not what we wanted in December 20.
But we can't keep firing every new president.
The only difference is that he is stronger among the politicians. What doesn't make him better for the people, but it will let him do what needs to be done even if other politicians don't like it.
The only reason we're letting him stay for now is that someone needs to do something quickly.
I believe and hope that he understands the seriousness of the situation and is giving his best.

[eorg]

actually anarchy isn't a bad thing imagine no one messes with other's business and if we have people with different ideas they just sit and talk
other thing: i pay someone to tell me what to do what a stupidity if politician wants to give me orders make him pay for this (almost citation from 'the moon is a harsh mistress' robert heinlein - i like rational anarchist thing )

go go go

[ 26 January 2002: Message edited by: georgig ]

[Loknar]

Anarchy won't work. If there was anarchy, nothing would work, and it would probably end up like Mad Max or Postman (one good movie, one bad).

BTW, Andres, always keep a little optimism tucked away. There might be some kind of breakthrough; who knows.

[dumbluck]

So, what's up with Argentina? I haven't heard much of anything since the attention span of the news networks ran out. After all, nothing catastrophic or scandelous happened within a 24 hour period, so there isn't anything interesting going on, right?

My apoligies fer mi por spelin'.