R'lyeh Dreamlands and Void Summoning

[Shovah32]

Psientist said:
Has anyone else ever observed their Void Gate "drying up" somewhere around turn 80-100? It has seemed to happen to me a couple of times.

Try using a new summoner. I believe after a certain summoning level it becomes more difficult to summon things(this applies atleast to summoning vastnesses afaik) for balance purposes.

[Endoperez]

I understood it wasn't "for balance purposes" as much as "no one will ever get the summoning skill this high, so there's no need to add anything more" without taking A) the spell Returning and B) Gift of Health and/or Chalice into account.

[Jazzepi]

Endoperez said:
I understood it wasn't "for balance purposes" as much as "no one will ever get the summoning skill this high, so there's no need to add anything more" without taking A) the spell Returning and B) Gift of Health and/or Chalice into account.

I think it would be really cool if they added some super rare, super uber stuff you could get out of the void gate.

Jazzepi

[Endoperez]

Jazzepi said:

I think it would be really cool if they added some super rare, super uber stuff you could get out of the void gate.

Jazzepi

Vastness IS that super uber stuff you can get out of the void gate. However, as I said, high summoning skill is much easier to get than the devs thought.

[Kristoffer O]

> However, as I said, high summoning skill is much easier to get than the devs thought.

You might be right there.

[vfb]

Huh, so 'Returning' does work from the Void Gate, if your Starspawn is suddenly attacked. I just saw it happen. I guess the Void Gate is not really in your capital, it's in the void.

No need for bodyguards then.

[HoneyBadger]

Vastness is fine, but it's just one example. I think their are a ton of possibilities here, not necessarily to make units that are so much more powerful than a Vastness (although their could certainly be, as rarities), but more variety and specialization, at that level of power.

[Loren]

vfb said:
Huh, so 'Returning' does work from the Void Gate, if your Starspawn is suddenly attacked. I just saw it happen. I guess the Void Gate is not really in your capital, it's in the void.

No need for bodyguards then.

Yup, I just tried it. My summoner got out fine. However, some insane cultist jumped in the gate afterwards! He even managed to summon something.

[Failure]

Kristoffer, is it likely that the Void Gate will be changed/tweaked in future patches for dominions 3?

[Psientist]

I don't think there needs to be more powerful void summons, though top-level alternatives to Vastnesses would be interesting. I think it's more important to provide options to prevent the "drying up" effect of high summoners, even if it's higher numbers or more frequency of the existing void summons.