The AI Strikes Back!!

Resident Alien 2 · #1 January 27th, 2002, 03:00 PM

quote:
Originally posted by dogscoff:
Sorry, jumping OT for a second:
The only problem is that I still have a few more images to do, so this won't be the definitive non-Gold vikings release - but there's no more numbers between 0.99 and 1.00 - D'oh!

How about 0.99.01

Resident Alien 2 · #2 January 27th, 2002, 03:04 PM

quote:
Originally posted by dogscoff:
Yeah, happened to me a while back against the vikings. They took about 5 of my systems before I could cut myself off using stellar manipulation and regroup. Now, over 100 turns later, I'm only just starting to open warp points and counter- attack, but their ships are way ahead of mine.

It's cool, isn't it, when the AI actually surprises you like that? I'm determined to actually finish this game, since it's so good, and this is the furthest I've ever played.

Also, I've noticed some monolith IIIs on their planets, that means they have stellar manipulation... how long until they start opening wps into *my* systems?

[ 27 January 2002: Message edited by: dogscoff ]

The Rage AI has been building planets - I had a ship in the system so I got the message. If the AI started creating warp points .... be afraid, be very afraid

dogscoff · #3 January 27th, 2002, 03:08 PM

or just V0.999, but then it starts getting silly. I think I'll release this one, and then when all the images are finished release a final Version and just call it something like "Space Vikings Classic (Definitive download)". Since there will be no more updates to SE4 Classic (ie non-Gold), there will be no more updates to the "Classic" vikings once the images are finished.

Or maybe, just to be sure, I should call it
"Space Vikings Classic V1.00", and have
"Space Vikings Gold V1.00" as a seperate entity.
After all, all releases so far have been branded
"Space Vikings (Pre CD release) V0.XX"

Or maybe I should just sit back and appreciate the fact that I have nothing more important to worry about than this...

Master Belisarius · #4 January 27th, 2002, 03:12 PM

As Rollo said, always is good to know this kind of histories.

Resident Alien 2: are you using High Bonus for the AI? This could be the reason for the big ships for the Aquilaeian.

Dogscoff: sorry man, but I think that use Warp Closers/Openers against the AI, is near to cheat. Because the AI have not clue that need to use a Warp Opener, to continue the attack against you.

Rollo: I agree with you, the Gold AI is really better.

dogscoff · #5 January 27th, 2002, 03:13 PM

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If the AI started creating warp points .... be afraid, be very afraid

If the Vikings opened a warp point into my space right now it would almost certainly be game over for me. I have to cripple their economy as quickly as I can to stop that happening. Unfortunately I'm playing "Geneva" (as usual) so I refuse to glass their worlds from orbit - I have to take them all with troops, planet by planet.

I'm too nice for this game=-)

[ 27 January 2002: Message edited by: dogscoff ]

dogscoff · #6 January 27th, 2002, 03:25 PM

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Dogscoff: sorry man, but I think that use Warp Closers/Openers against the AI, is near to cheat.

You're right, I felt that way at first, but the vikings were so aggressive that cutting the Last warp point between me and them was my only way of staying alive. Even then, I delayed it's use until the Last possible moment (to the cost of 2 of my 3 homeworlds) and I would never use the communications reset "feature" upon re-contacting them to reinvent myself as a peaceful ally when really they should hate my guts (although they started it, BTW)

I also feel that I deliberately limit myself enough as it is, by refusing to kill population from orbit. I'm also refraining from excessive intel use, which is another AI exploit that can be unfair to the point of cheating.

The vikings are way ahead in tech and fleets, and have a "cheat" of their own (the production bonuses) so even now, with my cheating, I'm struggling to keep my ships alive whenever I enter a viking system. I don't really care if it's fair or not, since I'm only playing against the AI. What matters to me is that I'm enjoying the challenge of the game.

Resident Alien 2 · #7 January 27th, 2002, 04:00 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Master Belisarius:
As Rollo said, always is good to know this kind of histories.

Resident Alien 2: are you using High Bonus for the AI? This could be the reason for the big ships for the Aquilaeian.

Dogscoff: sorry man, but I think that use Warp Closers/Openers against the AI, is near to cheat. Because the AI have not clue that need to use a Warp Opener, to continue the attack against you.

Rollo: I agree with you, the Gold AI is really better.

Computer Player Difficulty = High, Computer Player Bonus = High.