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January 30th, 2002, 02:24 AM
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Re: Gas giants Good or Bad?
quote: Originally posted by PsychoTechFreak:
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January 29th, 2002, 11:48 PM
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Re: Gas giants Good or Bad?
quote: Originally posted by Phoenix-D:
Gas giant planets are both rarer and larger than normal planets- no gas giant moons, for example. In short, it places a premium on your colonies- you'll have fewer to protect, but each one you loose will hurt more.
Other than that, no huge effects.
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Gas Giants are even rarer if you use the "Ancient" quadrant type for the map.
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January 30th, 2002, 12:32 AM
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Re: Gas giants Good or Bad?
No offence to everybody here but...
Frankly, colonizing a Gas Giant is unreal.
I know it's a game but this has always ticked me off: races such as us can't colonize gas giants because it would get crushed by the immense pressure and its wind velocities would flail a colony around the planet so many times...
Energy beings (if there are ones) would be able to survive but carbon based lifeforms wouldnt be able to survive the elements of a gas giant.
Maybe build a station to mine it but the idea of colonization is farfetched.

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January 30th, 2002, 03:25 AM
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Re: Gas giants Good or Bad?
quote: Originally posted by TerranC:
No offence to everybody here but...
Maybe build a station to mine it but the idea of colonization is farfetched.
That's right. The idea is farfetched, but who knows what will happen in 400 years time? I seem to remember that not long ago people thought going to the moon or even flying were farfetched ideas...
I tend not to rule out anything.
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January 30th, 2002, 03:43 AM
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Re: Gas giants Good or Bad?
quote: Originally posted by TerranC:
No offence to everybody here but...
Frankly, colonizing a Gas Giant is unreal.
I know it's a game but this has always ticked me off: races such as us can't colonize gas giants because it would get crushed by the immense pressure and its wind velocities would flail a colony around the planet so many times...
Energy beings (if there are ones) would be able to survive but carbon based lifeforms wouldnt be able to survive the elements of a gas giant.
Maybe build a station to mine it but the idea of colonization is farfetched.
True for carbon based lifeforms that are usually associated with rocky planets.
However in SE4 you might be playing a very alien race that could live on a Gas Giant. I have read a number of novels that propose life on gas giants (e.g. Wheelers by Ian Steward and Jack Cohen)
In a science fiction based 4X game anything should be possible.
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January 30th, 2002, 03:52 AM
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Re: Gas giants Good or Bad?
inertial dampners and shield grids will stop that wind-whipping. sure it all sounds stupid, but its sci-fi techno-babble.
we probably have enough raw materials in our own solar system to support more human beings than i know how to pronounce the numbers for. we can already change some kinds of atoms into other atoms, and create molecular scale self-assembling-machines, why would we ever need to go anywhere else except out of curiosity? i think the main reason space-opera is intertaining is because you can combine 18-19th century imperialism with 20th century warfare, and throw it all into the future.
none of its realistic, but it sure is fun.
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January 30th, 2002, 04:09 AM
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Re: Gas giants Good or Bad?
How about futuristic, armored blimp buildings?
There's tons of area on a gas giant, and you can spread out in 3D no problem.
The common house zeppelins could float to a level near 1 atmosphere pressure, factories would float up and down to the level where gathering their particular resource is easiest.
Gas giants are just so freaking huge that 8 billion Zeppelin houses would rarely ever meet.
You could avoid the stormy areas (go up/down/north/south) with basic propulsion, and being in a 500KM/H wind dosen't matter when you're moving at 500KM/H with the wind. Your airspeed is almost zero, and there's no ground to compare to or crash into.
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