Glamour post 3.08

sum1lost · #1 June 27th, 2007, 01:22 AM

Quote:

Jazzepi said:
Level 1 priests are just as effective as level 5 priests at spamming banishment.

Jazzepi

But are less effective against a high mr, since magic levels impact penetration, if I remember correctly.

horay 4 listening.

Jazzepi · #2 June 27th, 2007, 01:35 AM

That, I did not know. I read on here that the banishment was exactly the same.

Jazzepi

vfb · #3 June 27th, 2007, 02:15 AM

Not only that, Banishment is AoE 2+(2* H level), Dam 3+(2* H level). According to the spell spreadsheet, not the manual, it's even range 15 + (5* H level).

H1: AoE 4, Dam 5, range 20
H2: AoE 6, Dam 7, range 25
H3: AoE 8, Dam 9, MR-1, range 30
H4: AoE 10, Dam 11, MR-1, range 35
H5: AoE 12, Dam 13, MR-2, range 40

(Extra bonus points if you go to the all effort of making an H5 priest just to cast banishment

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Valandil · #4 June 27th, 2007, 02:47 AM

Actually, saxon raises a good point. Vanheim has extremely easy acces to archery neuters (Air bless, arrow fend). How will a buff to archers vs glamour actuallly weaken vanheim, save by makoing F9 W9 (slightly) less attractive?

I'm a SP player, mainly, and I should mention that I've never ran into the "Vans vs. Human player" situation before- It's usually Ry'leh or Ermor (Even MA).

Velusion · #5 June 27th, 2007, 03:33 AM

I don't think this thread was to rehash the "Van's kick everyone's asses in the early game badly" thread. I think this thread was just to see if the 3.08 change actually weakened the vans somewhat.

The only player with any experience has been Jazzepi - who has said (from what i can tell) No, it hasn't.

atul · #6 June 27th, 2007, 03:55 AM

Hm, when I ran a quick test with a screen of statues and 50 indy archers, the glamour did get dispelled on quite many vans. However, after that you're left with a problem how to kill low-resource-cost high-defence high-protection cavalry. Which is not easy.

But evocation spells at least seem to work better against Vans nowadays.

AreWeInsaneYet · #7 June 27th, 2007, 04:51 AM

banishment is almost USELESS against shadow vestals, no matter what priest you are, H1 or H3.

I did a test run just now, using 8 C'tis priest king(who has much better precision--10 to 7--than agartha priests) scripted to 5x banishment banish 27 shadow vestals led by one ermor priest(NO ASPOSTACY, that is), and the result is pretty ridiculous: the first wave of banishment go before bless killed 6 vestals, and that's pretty much about it. yes, the second and third wave killed only 1 of 21 left, leave me 20 experienced vestals and 8 good fried lizard holy meats.