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February 1st, 2002, 03:29 AM
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Re: Red Alert!
I'd like to echo some of what Aub and Geoschmo have said here regarding RTS games: I can't warm up to them either. I haven't tried SU, but judging from the review it sounds as if SEIV is much the better game.
One of the things I saw in the review that sounded very loud alarm bells for me was the weak AI criticism. Nothing can kill a 4X game deader for me than an AI that doesn't properly develop its empire in the early game, so that by the time you find them they are so far behind that there's nothing for them to do but roll over and stick their paws in the air. SSI's Star General, for example, had some really nice features (including a planet invasion and ground combat system that I wish somebody else would emulate), but the AI was so weak that in the end the nice features didn't matter.
By contrast, I've played MOOII *a lot*, and at the highest difficulty levels I can still lose if I'm not careful. I don't have nearly as much experience with SEIV, but I'm still finding the AI a competent opponent.
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February 1st, 2002, 03:58 AM
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Re: Red Alert!
Speaking of being able to pre-order, guess what.. I can do it now. 
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February 1st, 2002, 05:29 AM
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Re: Red Alert!
Guys. Matrix games has put out some great games over the years. And there war games are great.
IF this game isn't good right now they will get it right. Which in my books is good for us and good for the community.
You should check out some of there other games and there free games.
Steel Panthers is a great game. And they have Pacific war !!!!
So download the demo and try it and post your findings here.
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February 1st, 2002, 06:01 AM
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Re: Red Alert!
I always watch the other guys, it's not paranoia, but I never dismiss anything as being insignificant unless I made it get that way.
I suggest we drop to Yellow Alert.. lol
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February 1st, 2002, 03:04 PM
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Re: Red Alert!
quote: Originally posted by LLB:
SSI's Star General, for example, had some really nice features (including a planet invasion and ground combat system that I wish somebody else would emulate)
I totally agree. I still load that game into my hard drive every now and then just to get a taste of *real* invasions. I am hoping that the MOO3 described invasions will come close to this.
-TG
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February 1st, 2002, 04:18 PM
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Re: Red Alert!
quote: Originally posted by Tampa_Gamer:
I totally agree. I still load that game into my hard drive every now and then just to get a taste of *real* invasions. I am hoping that the MOO3 described invasions will come close to this.
-TG
Yeah, the descriptions sound promising. Or maybe we can coax Aaron into taking it on for SEV. 
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February 1st, 2002, 04:53 PM
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Re: Red Alert!
Well, ground combat has lots of room for improvement, that's for sure.
Like you guys, I was also enjoying Star General. I am just too busy to play it lately (and there is SE4, of course).
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