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July 4th, 2007, 06:30 PM
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Re: President Bush commuted \'Scooter\' Libby\'s sent
Atrocities, no offense to you, but I'm yet to meet a liberal who wants terrorist to go free. What we want is for America to endure and survive and the laws to be upheld. Saying liberals want to embrace terrorist is fox news talking points and this adminstration's propaganda nonsense.
Repeating a lie enough times doesn't make it true. It just makes it a well known lie.
Bill Clinton may or may not be a criminal, but lying about sex is nothing compared to the corruption and criminal behavior of this administration. make no mistake history will record Bush's administration as the one that brought an end to the American Century through mismanagement, incompetence and arrogance.
I don't know if you read this or not, but before you go any further atrocities, read this column http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19588942/
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July 4th, 2007, 09:50 PM
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Re: President Bush commuted \'Scooter\' Libby\'s sent
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Repeating a lie enough times doesn't make it true. It just makes it a well known lie.
I don't know if you read this or not, but before you go any further atrocities, read this column http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19588942/
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Repeating the lie seems to work well for the liberals. They enjoy calling truth a lie while promoting their own lie as truth. This is politics.
I don't consider msnbc a valid news source given their strong propensity toward unprofessional conduct. 
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July 5th, 2007, 12:15 AM
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And twisting words around to zing someone doesn't work either. The sad fact of reality is that Bush did indeed commit crimes and placed himself outside the laws he established. His own sentencing policy has been violated by his own actions http://www.slate.com/id/2169792/
You know, the last time a politician screwed up this badly, their party lost control of the government for 20 years. Seeing how Clinton's screwup only took America 6 years to get over...
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July 5th, 2007, 12:18 AM
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And twisting words around to zing someone doesn't work either. The sad fact of reality is that Bush did indeed commit crimes and placed himself outside the laws he established. His own sentencing policy has been violated by his own actions http://www.slate.com/id/2169792/
You know, the last time a politician screwed up this badly, their party lost control of the government for 20 years. Seeing how Clinton's screwup only took America 6 years to get over...
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If he has committed any convictable crimes then he should be charged in a court of law and prosecuted. Let the law deal with him and let the people pass legal judgment based upon true evidence and not just some far left propaganda bent upon character assassination and nothing more.
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July 5th, 2007, 01:11 AM
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Re: President Bush commuted \'Scooter\' Libby\'s sent
Meh, bush may not be a "criminal" tried in a court of law convicted by a hury of his peers ect, but him, his whole dam party and most of the government are what I'd call "crooks".
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July 5th, 2007, 01:21 AM
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Re: President Bush commuted \'Scooter\' Libby\'s sent
"Professional lying crooks" should be listed as a definition for Politicians in general.
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July 5th, 2007, 01:52 AM
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Well, that was the reason why people voted for democrats in 06. To bring some law and justice back, sadly the 2008 elections seemed to kicked off that year too and no body is focused on the law.
All it would have taken is a special prosecutor to be appointed and bush's celebrity justice system would have been dismantled.
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July 5th, 2007, 08:42 PM
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Re: President Bush commuted \'Scooter\' Libby\'s sent
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If he has committed any convictable crimes then he should be charged in a court of law and prosecuted. Let the law deal with him and let the people pass legal judgment based upon true evidence and not just some far left propaganda bent upon character assassination and nothing more.
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So, you support impeaching President Bush?
On the other side, Libby was dealt with by the law, and had legal judgment based on evidence provided by Patrick Fitgerald, ruled over by a judge (both republican appointed), and a guilty verdict is harder to reach than an innocent or hung jury. I have to think character assassination wasn't part of the deal. By the definition of perjury, its a knowing lie, not just being merely mistaken or forgetful.
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July 5th, 2007, 09:55 PM
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Re: President Bush commuted \'Scooter\' Libby\'s sent
I would support impeaching Bush or any president who breaks the law. I felt the impeachment of Clinton was a farce though. All Clinton had to say was "ya I banged that chick" and nuff said. But he opted to try and keep his personal life private and that is something that you cannot do holding the office that he held. Clinton should be pardon if Libby was pardoned in my honest opinion. Clinton's only crime was that he didn't just tell people to mind their own business.
I think the fine that Libby was given was adequate to his crime. I think that jail time for his crime was over reaching and not appropriate. However, if Libby was pardoned, then so should Clinton.
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July 5th, 2007, 09:58 PM
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I fully support compensation be given to any one who was held and then later released after discovering that they were held without cause. How do you make something like that right after taking away a persons freedom and treating them as if they were not human? Somehow an apology just doesn't seem like enough of an apology at times like these.
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