Stronger Planets mod idea

[PvK]

My Proportions mod works on this issue in a few ways:

1) Planetary cargo/deployment capacities increased.

2) Homeworld "cultural center" facilities, urban, and other facilities also add more cargo/deployment space.

3) Planetary weapon mounts increase both range and accuracy (as well as damage) because they have fixed target reference points.

4) New weapon platform components including non-computer command centers with higher levels of development give to-hit bonuses for better trained crews. Also, there are some large and expensive fire control center components which give nice to-hit bonuses (and similar can also be placed on large defensive bases).

5) Increased population damage-to-kill.

I'm waiting to see what's going to be in the first Gold patch to decide exactly what I'm going to do with ground troops, but in my current first Proportions upgrade I've increased troops damage resistance by about 100 times, both to reduce the ability to zap them from space, and to lengthen ground wars. I also upped planetary shield generators to go up to 25000 or so strength, because otherwise they don't compete at all with shield WP's.

In my more ambitious (and thus unfinished) Foundations mod, I also added various flavours of planetary PD components, which like those shown here are given a small size per weapon to increase their rate of fire and number per platform.

However, I'm thinking I don't like the "reduce the size" option nearly as much as the "increase the planet's capacity" approach, because it then becomes possible to transport planetary weapons easily, which especially makes no sense for the bunkers listed here, etc. Massive planetary defenses should (logically/realistically speaking) be relatively difficult to transplant from world to world.

So, I will probably be changing Foundations' smaller PD components to be a bit bigger, and just increasing capacities on planets more.

PvK

[PvK]

Hmm, you might be able to mod tiny drones that would be like that, Baron...

BTW, SE3 seekers had limited range, too, unless you modded them.

The bullfighter tactic can be countered by putting something besides "strongest" as the first targetting priority.

PvK

[geoschmo]

Baron,

Your point is valid, although it's hard to pull this off in strategic combat because your ships suffer from the same ai decision making that the enemies do, so it kind of balances out. However in tactical combat agains the AI, it is VERY easy to take advantage of.

Your idea of "CSM drones" is moddable. You could create a cheap set of drone components and only give them combat movement I think. This could also have the effect of running out of missles in the middle of combat which appeals to my sense of realism, which I try hard to suppress.

The only problem doing that though is that in strategic combat if all the drones launch and are not recovered after combat you could easily draw out the defenses with a single ship before the fleet moves in.

Geoschmo

[Q]

quote:

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Originally posted by tkobo:
I must say I like and agree with almost all said in this post.

Q,i believe i like your solution the best.
Would it be possible to get a copy and instructions on how to add it to my game ?

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If you give me your e-mail adress I can send you the modified files. There are 4 files needed: the CompEnhancement, Settings, Components and the PlanetSize. However the component file has much more modifcations than just the special shields for the weapon platforms, so you may prefer just to copy the special shields in the standard file rather than to use my entire component modification.
I plan to post the entire modification with more racial traits, components, facilities and modified AI's when I adapted and tested it for the SE IV gold in the Mod section. But I am afraid that this may take quite a long time to be ready.

[Emperor's Child]

I have just put together a set of planet-based missiles to beef up the wep platforms based on much of the feedback from the group. Thanks to SkiGrinder, Q, geoschmo and PVK for your inputs.

To use these, you need to change the current component file's capital missile vehicle type as follows. (Remember to do it for all 6 tech levels!):

Change "Ship\Base\Sat\WepPlat" to "Ship\Base\Sat"

This will prevent the AI from putting in low-end missiles in his wep platforms.

Next, add in the following beefed up wep platform based missiles to the file:

Name := Heavy Capital Ship Missile I
Description := Planet-Launched Super-Heavy missile with nuclear warhead mounted in armored Silos.
Pic Num := 67
Tonnage Space Taken := 10
Tonnage Structure := 500
Cost Minerals := 50
Cost Organics := 0
Cost Radioactives := 10
Vehicle Type := WeapPlatform
Supply Amount Used := 2
Restrictions := None
General Group := Weapons
Family := 2001
Roman Numeral := 1
Custom Group := 0
Number of Tech Req := 1
Tech Area Req 1 := Missile Weapons
Tech Level Req 1 := 1
Number of Abilities := 0
Weapon Type := Seeking
Weapon Target := Ships\Planets
Weapon Damage At Rng := 120 120 120 120 120 120 120 120 120 120 120 120 120 120 120 120 0 0 0 0
Weapon Damage Type := Normal
Weapon Reload Rate := 1
Weapon Display Type := Seeker
Weapon Display := 1
Weapon Modifier := 0
Weapon Sound := capshpms.wav
Weapon Family := 2
Weapon Seeker Speed := 10
Weapon Seeker Dmg Res := 90

Name := Heavy Capital Ship Missile II
Description := Planet-Launched Super-Heavy missile with nuclear warhead mounted in armored Silos.
Pic Num := 67
Tonnage Space Taken := 10
Tonnage Structure := 500
Cost Minerals := 50
Cost Organics := 0
Cost Radioactives := 10
Vehicle Type := WeapPlatform
Supply Amount Used := 2
Restrictions := None
General Group := Weapons
Family := 2001
Roman Numeral := 2
Custom Group := 0
Number of Tech Req := 1
Tech Area Req 1 := Missile Weapons
Tech Level Req 1 := 2
Number of Abilities := 0
Weapon Type := Seeking
Weapon Target := Ships\Planets
Weapon Damage At Rng := 150 150 150 150 150 150 150 150 150 150 150 150 150 150 150 150 150 150 0 0
Weapon Damage Type := Normal
Weapon Reload Rate := 1
Weapon Display Type := Seeker
Weapon Display := 1
Weapon Modifier := 0
Weapon Sound := capshpms.wav
Weapon Family := 2
Weapon Seeker Speed := 11
Weapon Seeker Dmg Res := 105

Name := Heavy Capital Ship Missile III
Description := Planet-Launched Super-Heavy missile with nuclear warhead mounted in armored Silos.
Pic Num := 67
Tonnage Space Taken := 10
Tonnage Structure := 500
Cost Minerals := 50
Cost Organics := 0
Cost Radioactives := 10
Vehicle Type := WeapPlatform
Supply Amount Used := 2
Restrictions := None
General Group := Weapons
Family := 2001
Roman Numeral := 3
Custom Group := 0
Number of Tech Req := 1
Tech Area Req 1 := Missile Weapons
Tech Level Req 1 := 1
Number of Abilities := 0
Weapon Type := Seeking
Weapon Target := Ships\Planets
Weapon Damage At Rng := 200 200 200 200 200 200 200 200 200 200 200 200 200 200 200 200 200 200 200 200
Weapon Damage Type := Normal
Weapon Reload Rate := 3
Weapon Display Type := Seeker
Weapon Display := 1
Weapon Modifier := 0
Weapon Sound := capshpms.wav
Weapon Family := 2
Weapon Seeker Speed := 12
Weapon Seeker Dmg Res := 120

Name := Heavy Capital Ship Missile IV
Description := Planet-Launched Super-Heavy missile with nuclear warhead mounted in armored Silos.
Pic Num := 67
Tonnage Space Taken := 10
Tonnage Structure := 500
Cost Minerals := 50
Cost Organics := 0
Cost Radioactives := 10
Vehicle Type := WeapPlatform
Supply Amount Used := 2
Restrictions := None
General Group := Weapons
Family := 2001
Roman Numeral := 4
Custom Group := 0
Number of Tech Req := 1
Tech Area Req 1 := Missile Weapons
Tech Level Req 1 := 4
Number of Abilities := 0
Weapon Type := Seeking
Weapon Target := Ships\Planets
Weapon Damage At Rng := 300 300 300 300 300 300 300 300 300 300 300 300 300 300 300 300 300 300 300 300
Weapon Damage Type := Normal
Weapon Reload Rate := 1
Weapon Display Type := Seeker
Weapon Display := 1
Weapon Modifier := 0
Weapon Sound := capshpms.wav
Weapon Family := 2
Weapon Seeker Speed := 13
Weapon Seeker Dmg Res := 140

Name := Heavy Capital Ship Missile V
Description := Planet-Launched Super-Heavy missile with nuclear warhead mounted in armored Silos.
Pic Num := 67
Tonnage Space Taken := 10
Tonnage Structure := 500
Cost Minerals := 50
Cost Organics := 0
Cost Radioactives := 10
Vehicle Type := WeapPlatform
Supply Amount Used := 2
Restrictions := None
General Group := Weapons
Family := 2001
Roman Numeral := 5
Custom Group := 0
Number of Tech Req := 1
Tech Area Req 1 := Missile Weapons
Tech Level Req 1 := 5
Number of Abilities := 0
Weapon Type := Seeking
Weapon Target := Ships\Planets
Weapon Damage At Rng := 500 500 500 500 500 500 500 500 500 500 500 500 500 500 500 500 500 500 500 500
Weapon Damage Type := Normal
Weapon Reload Rate := 1
Weapon Display Type := Seeker
Weapon Display := 1
Weapon Modifier := 0
Weapon Sound := capshpms.wav
Weapon Family := 2
Weapon Seeker Speed := 14
Weapon Seeker Dmg Res := 200

[ 05 February 2002: Message edited by: Emperor's Child ]

[geoschmo]

quote:

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Weapon Seeker Speed := 10

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Oh my! That's fast!

I wouldn't want to be leading the assault on that planet.

Geoschmo

[Wizarc]

Dont forget shields for your planets.