Mod: Epic Heroes Mod -Version 1.5 Released

[Xietor]

I am bumping the thread, to answer questions about the changes in 1.5. The changes are listed in the above post. 1.5 will not be released until the completion of the epic heroes mp game.

[Horst F. JENS]

just lost the epic heroes test game, playing Man. I think that my hero (the guy who can summon axe-throwers) was not overpowered. I let him summon axe-throwers all the time, but it made no big impact against human players. The axe-throwers were fine against indys.

[Nikolai]

I think that this mod going into 'unreal' territory. This's pointless. Ancient master can wipe the floor with a NATION, you don't get it? Two level 0 rings, garanteed at turn 5, ancient master is immune to most everything, including many other Epic heroes. I need Gift of Heaven to kill him!? Other 'methods' you suggest are a joke - are worthless at construction 4, and little effective even before that.

Why don't you name mod Epic Heroes: Arena, and attach a map with one center and 17 capitals around?

[Xietor]

There is an actual game ongoing to test the balance of the various heroes. To my knowledge, none has had much of an impact.

The Ancient Master in 1.4, the mod's present version, can be killed by 2 smites.

Really the one who has had the biggest impact is Ryleh Epic Hero who can make laying siege under water a nightmare by assassinating underwater commanders. But with star child's magic duel and mind hunt combo, it is already painful to siege Rlyeh's capital.

But Rlyeh Epic Hero is being toned down a bit in the next version.

The game is now in the late stages and angels and tartarian gates rule the world, not epic heroes.

Nikolai-you do make a good point about the Ancient Master in 1.5. And he will likely not get the shock resist. He will be immune to spells that check mr though, such as mind hunt.
Monks are supposed to be immune to mind control spells. thematic. And at 27 hps, he will be easy enough to kill. Much easier than a 310 hp tartarian gate!

Rigor Mortis can kill all Epic Heroes that are not undead-and it is easy for most nations to cast. Drain life is not resistible. Life for a life.

At 27 hps an Epic Hero should not be able to kill a Nation, though, if the player has a good understanding of the game mechanics.

[Xietor]

I will respond to a pm.

Yes the Epic Heroes Mod does have a fundamental change on the game in some respects. It does allow for sleeping pretenders for races who otherwise would never dare take a sleeping or imprisoned pretender.

It does allow some races that are weak out of the gate a fighting chance to survive until mid game. But I do not view that as a bad thing.

So yes, it adds new options in strategy and gameplay for existing races.

[Xietor]

Epic Heroes Mod just finished a 12 person mp game.

Some tweaking will be done to the Epic Heroes Mod, and then there will be a Epic Heroes Mod II mp game for a final Heroes test before the final mod version is released.

Anyone that has any thoughts on the relative power of the Heroes, especially players in the game, this is your chance to have some input.

[DigitalSin]

Once you're done with the MA nations, do you think there'd be any chance of you making an epic heroes mod for EA or LA?