What can cause Barbarian Uprisings?

[Hadrian_II]

lch said:

Yup. If they have high unrest in them and a bad event, they can chose to revolt and become independent again.

It might be that you not only need high unrest but also some turmoil scales for this event to happen.

[Kristoffer O]

> huh, I didn't know that about the good scales only taking effect in your own dominion

Neither did I, but I might be wrong.

Postitve scales in enemy dom do not count vs research. It affects if event is bad/good. YOu could say that it is good luck for the enemy dominion if you get a nasty event.

I don't think it affects the actual type of event (in regards to what might happen when it has been decided if the event is good or bad).

Barbarian hordes do only appear in misfortune 3 (might need turmoil 1 as well, not sure).
Knights in misfortune 2 IIRC.
Trolls in magical provinces.
Necromancers in Magic, Death and Misfortune IIRC.
Ancient precense in Magic 2 Growth 2 I would guess.

Almost all events (good and bad) has restrictions. Bad events might be restricted by good scales and vice versa.

The dying prince giving you his gold and items needs Death and Fortune.

[Jazzepi]

I tested this in several games. In armadillo I conquered the capital of Argatha who had magic 3. My mages did not get the research bonus until I preached out the 8 levels of dominion.

Jazzepi

[Kristoffer O]

Yep. Enemy magic dom doesn't work for you. Neither do enemy luck scale. It is even bad for you regarding whether the event is good or bad regardless of if it is misfortune or fortune.

But, it will determine if events can appear. A helpful necromancer will not appear if enemy luck is below 1, nor will a barbarian horde attack unless the enemy misfortune is 3.

[Jazzepi]

Barbarian hordes do only appear in misfortune 3 (might need turmoil 1 as well, not sure).

Are you sure about this? I'm positive I've gotten barbarians attacking me with misfortune 2.

Jazzepi

[Kristoffer O]

THere are several kinds of barbarian attacks. I think only one is called a horde. Regardless of the name of the event one is by far bigger than the others.

[Jazzepi]

Ohh okay I was just using that word in general.

Jazzepi

[Gandalf Parker]

Are there any TOTALLY random events? Kristoffer seems to hate putting any in and not giving some sort of variable to it.

Also I want to thank the devs for adding to Dom3 that indepts are susceptable to events. That has made some very interesting games for me.

And how do people feel about the scales which do or do not affect others? As an RPG soloer I might like the pros and cons of dominion being able to bleed over into other peoples areas. Maybe even make use of taking harsh scales, and purpoely working at using the scales of another nation (putting a lab in their domain and purposely avoiding pushing my dominion that direction for awhile). But in player-vs-player games it might be more of an irritation than a usable strategy.

[Endoperez]

High unrest can make barbarian attacks a common event IIRC, instead of a rare one. I think it's something like a rare event like this [Turmoil 1+: X barbarians attack], and a common event: [Order 1-, unrest 50+: X barbarians attack].

[lch]

Kristoffer O said:
Barbarian hordes do only appear in misfortune 3 (might need turmoil 1 as well, not sure).
Knights in misfortune 2 IIRC.
Trolls in magical provinces.

I think you might have mixed up the first two. I have seen barbarian hordes, but never knights or trolls. Or maybe Knights don't attack provinces with high order?