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August 15th, 2007, 03:29 PM
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Re: Do provinces grow in pop without Growth Domain
Not that I'm against "basic growth" roughly equal to 1 scale worth of growth - actually, I'm advocating that since the very first days of Dom2 ..
.. but Kristoffer, sometimes I really wonder who is making the Dominion games:
there's no "null-growth" in Dominions now, and there never was any.
Just did a quick test run - after 20 turns of "growth 0" in several home provinces the populations change was exactly zero.
If this isn't working as designed, yes, please give us base growth at last !
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August 15th, 2007, 03:58 PM
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Re: Do provinces grow in pop without Growth Domain
Are you sure? No growth: hard to imagine wouldn't you say 
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August 15th, 2007, 04:25 PM
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Re: Do provinces grow in pop without Growth Domain
I haven't tested it, but that's been the conventional wisdom since Dom2 at least.
I was surprised to see your post saying otherwise.
(I guess our Pantokrator has growth scales.)
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August 15th, 2007, 04:32 PM
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Re: Do provinces grow in pop without Growth Domain
I would like to see a little natural growth in population. The more dire the situation the more human beings reproduce, survival instinct I guess. You can't get more dire than the Ascension wars... 
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August 15th, 2007, 04:54 PM
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Re: Do provinces grow in pop without Growth Domain
But babies don't make war. 
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August 16th, 2007, 02:30 AM
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Re: Do provinces grow in pop without Growth Domain
but we're probably talking about 1-10 people a month her not, the, hundred newborns this month
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August 16th, 2007, 08:26 AM
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Re: Do provinces grow in pop without Growth Domain
Well, I've always assumed that the population of a province measures only the able bodied working adults. So even though babies don't pay taxes (and can't go to war, although that would be adorable), a certain percentage of the existing children in a province will reach the arbitrary adulthood cutoff (wherever it may be) each month.
Typical world population growth rates in the modern era are around 0.1% per month, so that has to be an *upper* bound on the growth rate in "normal" provinces.
So a default rate of 0.05% wouldn't be unreasonable, but it's also so small (1/4 of the growth from 1 pip of Growth scale), that it wouldn't make any difference.
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