Opinions on Caelum (MA and other)

[Salamander8]

Sorlakind said:

Add R'lyeh and Pangaea (panii are the main mages - since I do no play blood, someone else can chime in on the pandemoniacs). Shinuyama?

It's important to note that the national MA R'Lyeh mages can be recruited in any underwater fort, but not in land forts (exception:Starchildren in coastal land forts). It's definitely better than capital only, but it's still a restriction.

I have little experience with MA Caelum. I was playing them in Nuance till recently, but besides the mammoths (which chew indies and most PD to shreds, but are weak to magic), and the high seraphs (which are very good casters but old age was really hamstringing mine), I didn't really see a lot to recommend them. As I said, I have only minimal experience with them however. I would think that keeping the High Seraphs recruitable anywhere should be fine.

[Sorlakind]

Kristoffer O said:
I recently made High seraphs home only, and got some reactions on the matter.

Oh puhlease, not the nerf stick again.

Why on earth would you do that? I only know MA Caelum, and while it is a powerful nation it is by no means overpowered. Mammoths? Other nations have elephants and besides early expansion or against some dud nations (think Ulm) they become worthless. Try sending them against any nation with astral/death mages and see what's good for you. The flying infantry? Brittle. I tend to like the spire horn archers because of their shock and cold resistances can have a synergy with spamming lightning/cold spells, and the storm guards for the same reason. But they are resource expensive and... brittle. And lightning/cold resistances are easy to come by, especially on thug, SC's.

I am not going to argue this business anymore, others have done it (and will do it) much better than I. I'm depressed