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				 Re: Pure OCC 
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				 Proclamation of the Prieshood of Ulm Reborn 
 How dare you!
 At a time when Ulm is fighting the demonic shock cavalry of Sangvinia, how does
 Jomon dare to bring a demonic horde to Ulm's borders?!  Since our very first
 communications, we were very absolutely clear as to the consequences of any
 demonic troops being brought to our attention.
 
 All those serving Jomon have been declared an abomination unto Lady Elena!
 
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				 Re: Proclamation of the Prieshood of Ulm Reborn 
 Pfff.
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				 Re: Proclamation of the Prieshood of Ulm Reborn 
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				 Re: Proclamation of the Prieshood of Ulm Reborn 
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				 Re: Proclamation of the Prieshood of Ulm Reborn 
 > Pfff is a typical demon sound. As if further proof were needed.
 You are looking for a job in the Inquisition, or wanting to tease the Priesthood?  It's not as if Ulm looks to need much excuse to declare abominations left and right!
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				 Re: Proclamation of the Prieshood of Ulm Reborn 
 Actually, Sombre is very much correct.  "Pfff" is exactly the sound demons make when a quarrel embeds itself in their gut.  Our soldiers have become quite used
 to the sound.  And, of course, by that time, no further proof is needed.
 
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				 Re: Proclamation of the Prieshood of Ulm Reborn 
 Alright, I'm going AI. I'll remember to avoid pacts with people who use roleplaying as a pretext to ignore them at their convenience, not that it matters much.
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				 Very much out of character 
 Hold a freaking second!  I have every single piece of correspondence ever exchanged between the two of us.  I sent you four messages:
 
 In the first I agreed to three turns of peace, during which you would observed.
 I said I would be looking for demons, undead, and blood slaves.
 
 In the second I agreed to a three turn non-aggression pact, and once again, I
 stipulated that I will not tolerate unholy activity.  I asked for clarification
 on one point of the agreement.  You did clarify it.
 
 In the third, I spelled out the terms, and twice I stated "We will attack if we see
 demons, undead, or sacrificial slaves." I explicitly asked you to return the
 signed treaty, i.e. to confirm my terms.  You did not answer that message.
 
 In the fourth, after seeing Dog Soldiers in the castle near my borders, I
 pretended being unsure whether they were "the members of a strangely named
 regiment, or unholy crossbreeds".  I stated that I was worried that you had not
 returned my previous message, that Ulm "will exit the treaty in the most
 honorable manner", and would still give you the three months that the treaty
 called for.  I had no plans to attack, but by no means was I bound by any
 treaties after those three turns.
 
 So, Hell no, I am not ignoring any treaties!  Even if you had confirmed the
 treaty, which you did not, even if I had not exited it correctly, which I did,
 you had the audacity to bring demons to my freaking borders, which was a
 violation of the terms of the treaty, and which I made damn clear in every single
 message.
 
 I, the player, demand an apology.
 
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				 Re: Very much out of character 
 Oh no, those are definitely the terms of the treaty. It's really silly though, if you look at Jomon's makeup every caster, almost all commanders, and the high morale units are demons/undead. There's no possible way for me to even come close to abiding by the terms of it. Since I'm breaking it all the time, you might as well have a free "breaking of the treaty card" ready.
 Also, I didn't bring those units to you borders, you attack Sylvania and happened to stumble upon them. You ignored the fact that I had "dogmen" commanders earlier during the establishment of the treaty, and offered not to push your scouts any deeper. That seems a fairly trite convenience to me. I mean, really, if you're trying to be uber anti-demon/undead/blood sacrifice I think it is your duty to investigate with that, and other, scouts instead of just leaving it up in the air.
 
 But however you want to play your nations is fine, and I did agree to the terms, which in my opinion you know, and I know, I could never abide by simply by the makeup of Jomon's recruitable units. I didn't mean to offend you personally, but I will be much more wary of making pacts with people who are heavy role players. I'm here to play the game itself. Role playing is not high on my list, at all.
 
 Admittedly pretext is a bad word to use. I don't think there was any subterfuge in Tuidjy's treaty, but invariably the reason the treaty was broken is for role playing, and not strategic, reasons.
 
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