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August 28th, 2007, 05:03 PM
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Re: Placeholder for new Megagame - Evermore
Would "scattered water" be considered an advantage to the water nations? Or a drawback? It would make expansion much harder. And make it harder for one wter nation to quickly own up all of the water.
Or would be it better to group the water? Three lakes? or even just one ocean?
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August 28th, 2007, 05:31 PM
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Re: Placeholder for new Megagame - Evermore
I'm fine with there being some random "lakes" but I would like at least 75% all of the water provinces to belong to larger bodies of water and those larger bodies connected. I think this will encourage water nations to fight amongst each other but the winner will be more secure.
I'm inclined to have multiple "linked" oceans so there are choke points, but if the mapped looked good enough I would go with one large ocean. In the same vein I'd like "continents" of large land masses for land choke points.
Check out some of my other (non-wrap around) maps for examples of what I'm looking for:
http://67.66.187.69/dominions3/afterthoughtsmall.jpg
http://67.66.187.69/dominions3/discordancesmall.jpg
http://67.66.187.69/dominions3/perpetualitysmall.jpg
Except for a few minor errors - I really like (if I do say so myself  ) the perpetuality map - so somthing like that, but wrap around would be great.
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August 28th, 2007, 05:37 PM
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Re: Placeholder for new Megagame - Evermore
Perhaps a left-right wraparound, like a tube. Polar seas in the north and in the south. Continents in the middle with some crossing points.
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August 28th, 2007, 05:47 PM
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Re: Placeholder for new Megagame - Evermore
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Perhaps a left-right wraparound, like a tube. Polar seas in the north and in the south. Continents in the middle with some crossing points.
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I'd be willing to consider that, sure... though it doesn't completely fix the perceived problem of players on the edges having an advantage.
It does help address the biggest hesitation I have for complete wrap arounds - which is the difficulty players will have in planning moves around the visual edges. Imagine if your nation starts in the exact corner of the visual map with a complete (up/down left/right) wrap around map? Blah, it would be a total scroll mess. It suddenly becomes disadvantageous to start on the corners/edges.
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August 28th, 2007, 06:03 PM
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Re: Placeholder for new Megagame - Evermore
If the map is flagged right then the player will never notice he is on the edge. The game tiles the map and provides endless scrolling. As far as players are concerned, they all will think they "started in the middle" of the map
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August 28th, 2007, 06:07 PM
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Re: Placeholder for new Megagame - Evermore
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If the map is flagged right then the player will never notice he is on the edge. The game tiles the map and provides endless scrolling. As far as players are concerned, they all will think they "started in the middle" of the map
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Oh well then, sounds much better now 
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August 28th, 2007, 07:19 PM
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Re: Placeholder for new Megagame - Evermore
Yeah, what Gandalf said is correct. You can't even see the edges.
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August 30th, 2007, 12:04 PM
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Re: Placeholder for new Megagame - Evermore
I am not a fan of the wrap around. Sure it is an advantage to start in a corner-or is it? In my area of the map NW Corner the race in the corner(MA Caelum) was one of the 1st killed because other races wanted to be in the corner.
Typically races not in a corner will fight towards the corner or edge.
I think the race selection process is much more determinative of one's fate than a corner.
MA Ulm or EA Lanka-you decide.
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August 30th, 2007, 12:22 PM
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Re: Placeholder for new Megagame - Evermore
No arbitrary winning conditions. People that start out with more challenged races need more time to amass provinces than races like LA Ermor/EA Lanka/LA Ryleh etc.
To give the more balanced races a fighting chance to win, there cannot be a race to reach a certain number of provinces by a certain turn.
If players get bored after 9 months, they can resign or go ai.
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August 31st, 2007, 04:34 PM
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Re: Placeholder for new Megagame - Evermore
I might be able to help out with the flags. Let me know what you had in mind.
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