TOTAL WAR 1985

[MarkSheppard]

Is the real life airport that huge? Remember that just two hexes = a football field in real life.

[wulfir]

Truthfully, no idea..., if not I guess they rebuilt it just before WW3.



Btw Mark, you've been there for real?



Here's the map I used as a basis for the MBT map. Can't say I did much meassuring of distances though...

[MarkSheppard]

Yellow line is 87 hexes long;

the center runway is 60 hexes long, bottom is 50.

The military base at the top is 20 hexes by 2.

[wulfir]

hmmm...., I'm going to have to scale it down, my air field is about twice the size of the real one.

[narwan]

This may be of interest for this project. It's a link to the most detailed list of NATO forces I've seen so far. It's an OB for 1989 though, not 1985, but it should allow for a good reference point.
Not all nations are as equally well detailed though. The real beauty here AFAIK is the german territorial forces.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/37695/NATO...of-Battle-1989

I've also attached the document as pdf file.

Narwan

[narwan]

Hmm, the above link shows V3.0 of the obat. Somehow I managed to download a V7.3 of it but I can't find where I got that one. Anyway here's an even more detailed obat. In this one the german heimatschutzen units are detailed down to individual companies, platoons and demolition teams in the different VKK's. And more. Have fun!

[wulfir]

Operation Stoss: A Task Unworthy

East German forces plunge into West Berlin. Border Guards and regular army forces strike the Wedding area, defended by the French soliders of the 46th Regiment d'Infanterie and 11th Regiment de Chasseurs...

[narwan]

Would you mind if I join in Ulf? I've been thinking of doing some scenario's for a while now and this seems like a perfect set-up to base some of them in. I'm actually almost done with my first one, tinkering with deployment and balance (flags, turns, AI settings, that sort of thing). They say the first one is the hardest!

Anyway, I'm thinking of doing a whole series in the 1985 NATO-WP set-up and all focused on the Schleswig Holstein- Jutland area. In other words, a 'sideshow' theatre, but one with lot's of options (German Bundeswehr and Heimatschutzen, Danes, Brits, Americans and even Dutch on the NATO side) and all sorts of WP 'secondary' formations.

First one is a small battle (aprox 10 - 12 turns, reinforced companies on both sides) of a german HS infantry company defending a vital crossroads against a heavily reinforced Polish mech company. The battle is located just NW of Lubeck and assumes the Polish attack forces managed an early penetration in/around Lubeck and are pushing troops through. The polish mech cie is the lead element of the advancing battallion. It's more or less configured according to actual WP doctrine for the lead elements for such an advance.

And in case you hadn't guessed yet, I have a thing for the german HeimatSchutzen formations!

Hope to have it ready within a few days. I was thinking of tweaking it to be primairily playable as a small and fast PBEM scenario for 2 human players. Guess I'll need it tested then won't I? Hint, hint...

[wulfir]

narwan said:
Would you mind if I join in Ulf?

By all means go ahead!

We talked some about this previously IIRC, I still have the maps links - but time is in seriously short supply right now...