Woo-Hoo - 3.10 available

[lch]

sector24 said:
When you upgrade to 3.10 what happens to your existing games, are they still supported?

Single player? Yes, no problems.

[moodgiesanta]

Wow. This patch is really something else. The new and revised nations are really interesting, especially MA Mictlan. It's a new spin on my favorite nation.

[Huzurdaddi]

Poor Hydras they got crushed. At 250 gold they weren't a good buy anyway so I guess it is not a great loss.

The 175 gold Hydras in CB 1.1 OTOH were a solid buy and now (well once CB 1.1 gets updated) they will be a poor choice.

[Cheezeninja]

Hydras seem incredibly powerful to me... I've been rolling over level 9 indeps easily with no bless or support with 10-15 of them and have only lost 1 ~30 turns into a SP game. Sure the 6 hp per head thing seems weak at first, but it means that the most damage a single hit can do is to kill 1 head! They laugh off heavy cavalry charges because of this.

They strike me as really good meat shields, what am I missing?

[Taqwus]

As if I haven't lost enough sleep to this game already. Guess I won't be sleeping that much tonight...

Good to see that MA Mictlan got reworked -- they seemed a bit lost and confused, compared to EA/LA.

As for Hydras... heh, nine lives isn't only good for heavy cavalry charges, but also instant-death spells and the like.

Modding tweaks as well... hm. Out of demented curiosity, one might wonder whether the "monster autonomously wanders from province to province" behavior of the Unfettered Eater of the Dead is tied to number of base unit type, name of base unit type, or a property that theoretically could be applied to other monsters. If I were rather drunk, a 'Monster Island' map with numerous autonomous daikaiju might be entertaining. More seriously, wandering hordes of barbarians or undead would be very thematic for some maps, even if 'horde' has to be simulated via in-battle autosummons of some kind.

[Valandil]

Let me be the first to post that stonebeings with stone swords are wrking as inteded:
Stonesword Gargoyle

[Huzurdaddi]

Cheezeninja said:
Hydras seem incredibly powerful to me...

Here are the changes, as I understand them:

Negative:
1) The total offensive power is lower as the lesser heads use weak poison.
2) As a fight goes on the new Hydra gets less and less offensive power (assuming that the fight is not going well )
3) their total HP were reduced from 72 to 64 (6*4 lesser heads +4 0 greater head) ... maybe the original Hydra has 64 HP? I don't recall but I think it was 72.
4) The protection on the 1st 24 hp was reduced from 13 to 8

Positive:
1) no one hit can kill them
2) lots of shape changes seems to keep afflictions for affecting them
3) the change very thematic

[Cheezeninja]

That mostly seems correct. Except no 4(!) hits can kill them, not just 1.

[Sombre]

You could simply say they take a minimum of 9 hits to kill. Against certain enemies and spells that makes them very effective.