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October 26th, 2007, 04:04 PM
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Re: Any One Still Playing This Game?
That doesn't really invalidate anything I said, and I agree that the game is not as fun to play as SE4 (in spite of SE4's own mediocre UI). I was merely addressing the assertions of it being just a "flashy 3d game."
The UI has improved a lot over the last year, but still has issues that Aaron doesn't seem willing to address. Maybe we need to gather an actual succinct list of issues that contribute to playability issues, rather than just constantly bemoan its lack of fun-ness... Then, we can make a concerted effort to barrage him with specific, unified requests so he sees that there are indeed still some wide-spread problems. Here's a start:
1) Too many confirmation dialogs for orders. Perhaps add an "expert mode" option in Empire Options to skip all but the most important of these.
2) Blurry 3d rendered text names in system display should be replaced with crisp 2d text.
3) Revamp the bottom right button panel. Make a set of tab buttons at the top, rather than have some buttons within the panel randomly function as tabs.
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October 26th, 2007, 05:20 PM
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Re: Any One Still Playing This Game?
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I agree that the game is not as fun to play as SE4 (in spite of SE4's own mediocre UI).
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THAT was the gist of what I, and I think many others, have been trying to say.
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I was merely addressing the assertions of it being just a "flashy 3d game." 
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The point for me, in SEV being a " Flashy 3D game", is that more effort seems to have gone into the all new graphical appearance of the game, and the POTENTIAL moddability of it, rather than the interests of the " straight-out-of-the-box" player
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Maybe we need to gather an actual succinct list of issues that contribute to playability issues, rather than just constantly bemoan its lack of fun-ness...
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There's a VERY valid point. The number of playability issues and the lack of " fun-ness" is the killer for me.
When I first started playing SEIV, it grabbed and held my attention, and the improvements that arose over time just made it that much better. SEV just never had that " grab" that made SEIV so much fun. Straight off the street, SEIV turned out to be much more interesting and entertaining than anything delivered by SEV so far.
I never Beta-tested it, I have no vested interest in it's outcome, and I'm nobody community-wise. I'm just another average person, trying a new game based on the reputation of it's predecessor and finding it lacking.
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October 26th, 2007, 08:17 PM
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Re: Any One Still Playing This Game?
Gentlemen Please. If your going to fight at least give advanced notice so we can sell tickets to the ball.
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October 26th, 2007, 08:51 PM
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Re: Any One Still Playing This Game?
What thread are you reading, Atrocities?
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October 27th, 2007, 12:10 PM
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Re: Any One Still Playing This Game?
I think what AT is saying is, that he feels 'left out' and that this thread should be on the Sci Fi channel and they should be selling tickets for it!!! 
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October 27th, 2007, 01:00 PM
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Re: Any One Still Playing This Game?
Surely you guys have more quantifiable issues with the game than those 3 things.
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October 27th, 2007, 01:17 PM
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Re: Any One Still Playing This Game?
The sliders/spinners from SE4 race setup. Far superior interface to use than a pile of checkboxes for +/-5%
Showing estimated time to completion on build queue items... NOT the time it would take if it were the only thing in the queue.
Throw in a small indication of how many resources have already been invested in the item too.
As an extension of #2:
Same deal with the flags. Make them 2D overlays, smaller, and pack them together so a sector with three races in it is understandable. A larger flag can be ok if there is only one race in the sector.
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October 27th, 2007, 02:52 PM
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Re: Any One Still Playing This Game?
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Gentlemen Please. If your going to fight at least give advanced notice so we can sell tickets to the ball.
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Hmmmmm.............
Just to be clear here, I wasn't trying to " argue" a point, but rather simply state my point of view. I think everyone has a solid stance from their own perspective, and I just wanted to express mine. 
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December 25th, 2007, 03:41 PM
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Re: Any One Still Playing This Game?
I do at times,rarely these days.
Where oh where can I find the mod launcher. Been doing a search and just can't seem to locat it for d/l.
Never mind, found it.
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