Accidental/Intentional map design problems.

NTJedi · #1 October 27th, 2007, 11:13 AM

Most likely the map was created before patch_3.10 and someone is playing a new nation which was not listed on the original .map file.

Meglobob · #2 October 27th, 2007, 11:37 AM

It happens...no one is cheating, its just plain bad luck.

In a recent MP game I was in, 3 nations started alot closer together than all the others. That was before the 3.10 patch.

Squeezing an extra player or 2 in can result in this.

Ballbarian · #3 October 27th, 2007, 11:43 AM

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Really, cheating with the map is completely unacceptable and this degree of misplacement is extreme.

Cheating is the least likely cause.

I checked the map file that was uploaded in the BAG thread, and it contains NO predefined starts. It does however contain some provinces which are set to be "no start". Start positions would therefore be placed randomly by the game engine and your problem is likely tied directly to the number of players versus the number of unblocked provinces.

Folket · #4 October 28th, 2007, 08:29 AM

Two provinces between you and only one other player. That is not bad at all. It happens all the time that you only have one province between and more enemies two provinces away. The most extrem I have seen is two pair of players starting next to eachother.

Archonsod · #5 October 28th, 2007, 08:16 PM

Worst start I ever seen was on Cradle of Dominions. IIRC it was Sauromatia or a similar non-aquatic nation getting that one province island as their capital. Bit of a crippling position really, needless to say we restarted the game.

Edi · #6 October 29th, 2007, 07:52 AM

Are you sure that wasn't Parganos, Archonsod? Because IIRC Cradle only has one inaccessible island province and it's always been nostart.

konming · #7 October 29th, 2007, 10:19 AM

I recently played a game with 16 provinces per player, and there are two capitals within three provinces of my capital. And they completely blocked my way to the east and south, and north +1 is the map edge. Talk about bad luck.

Humakty · #8 October 29th, 2007, 10:32 AM

The same happens to me all the time. As I only play SP, must I think the AI cheats ?
If it is the case, my PC will be offered a just but short trial, before being thrown through the window, or staked and burned in public. (to offer bypassers a little warmth during these cold days)