Why Kailasa, Bandar Log, and Patala NEVER WIN - Page 18

lch · #**171** November 9th, 2007, 09:06 AM

Exactly, this thread was about difference in PD strengths, and not about difference in the national recruitable units. "Can never win" was sort of an universal statement, however. It never was "can lose in certain setups". That's obvious.

Lord_Bob · #**172** November 9th, 2007, 10:38 AM

Oh I can lose MA Ulm versus MA Bandar Log. Granted, MA Ulm has very poor PD, specializing in Arbalests who will kill the rest of your own soldiers for the enemey, so that has nothing to do with my claims, but, I really don't think I will lose.

I said I was ready yesterday, and I am ready today. Anytime after I make this post for the next 10 hours. I can also do from the time I make this post now, till whenever tommorrow.

It's nice that the frothing has settled down when I throw out LA T'ien Ch'i versus LA Patala. Did you know that LA T'ien Ch'i gets 2 composite bow shooters per point of PD? One of which is light calvarly! After 20, they also get a Heavy Calvary(which also has a composite bow!)! Maybe that should be switched to an Ancestor Vessel, like Mictlan has Jaguars, in order to achieve "balance". Heh, heh.

Oh, and I am perfectly aware that I am messing up my diplomacy by doing this. I however, think that the game shouldn't be broken by a trivial sub-feature that can be corrected with no programming effort at all. You apparently think it should.

Folket · #**173** November 9th, 2007, 10:48 AM

I wonder if Lord_Bob only is here to make people upset, say strange stuff and generally mess with everyone, given that he recently made a post accusing people of cheating as he had a capital just three moves away.

Evilhomer · #**174** November 9th, 2007, 10:49 AM

The reason I fear LA Patala vs LA Tien chi has nothing to do with pd. Basically LA Tien chi has good bless troops and access to astral magic (LA Patala is very weak against astral magic). I do honestly belive the match up is not at all decided since Patala has some good tactics up their sleave (elephants, much better battle magic), but LA TC has a slight advantage.

I could probably play later on today, in maybe 5-6 hours from now. Send a pm and we can arrange details.

Hadrian_II · #**175** November 9th, 2007, 11:01 AM

@Lord_Bob

If i was able to set up some dom3, then you can join a game on 85.2.155.98:8888 where i play bandar log, and you can play whatever you like, if i should loose it wont be because the PD.

Agrajag · #**176** November 9th, 2007, 11:02 AM

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Oh I can lose MA Ulm versus MA Bandar Log.

Doesn't this disprove the whole "Bandar Log NEVER WINS" thing?

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can be corrected with no programming effort at all.

Well, with no programming effort at all, you can make a mod that makes Bandar's PD stronger.

Lord_Bob · #**177** November 9th, 2007, 11:18 AM

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I wonder if Lord_Bob only is here to make people upset, say strange stuff and generally mess with everyone, given that he recently made a post accusing people of cheating as he had a capital just three moves away.

And surprisingly in my next game I have 4 provinces I can capture without ending up adjacent, by adjacent I mean RIGHT NEXT TO an enemy capital. You can confirm this with Coobe and Yucky. 4 WHOLE PROVINCES! WOO-HOO! I also started out with one of those provinces being a "dead-end" province, forcing my army to turn around, and the other two having barbarians! Yes, that "coveted" corner position is serving me well!

NOTE:
Because I'm not quite sure where Utgard's capital is, I may have had ONE other province I could have taken.... But by the time I could even see it, actually by the earliest possible time I could have taken it, since I needed two turns of Rangers to beat the barbarian, and I took it on Turn 3 using my Black Priest research mage as a commander, Utgard had taken my only possible "fifth province". Currently, I am hoping that Patala will let me out of my corner and have 5 other provinces, but since one of them is adjacent to his capital, I'm thinking he is going to attack me. At that point he can enjoy taking another player down with him as we both lose. Of course, my other option was settling in to my 5 province empire(including capital). So my other option involves me losing to.

Lord_Bob · #**178** November 9th, 2007, 11:23 AM

I'm not playing everyone in some bizarre wierdness. Shovah32 wanted to play me MA Bandar versus whatever, and I'm perfectly willing to do that today. I'll play EvilHomer Patala versus T'ien Ch'i today if Shovah can't play today. Six hours from now would be fine.

Hadrian_II · #**179** November 9th, 2007, 11:24 AM

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Lord_Bob said:
I'm not playing everyone in some bizarre wierdness. Shovah32 wanted to play me MA Bandar versus whatever, and I'm perfectly willing to do that today. I'll play EvilHomer Patala versus T'ien Ch'i today if Shovah can't play today. Six hours from now would be fine.

Too Bad

llamabeast · #**180** November 9th, 2007, 11:33 AM

I don't think there is much point in playing Patala vs T'ien Ch'i. As EvilHomer says, T'ien Ch'i probably is a stronger nation, although not particularly because of its PD. MA Ulm vs Bandar Log would be much more meaningful, because many of us feel that Bandar Log would have an advantage, whereas you are certain that Bandar Log can NEVER WIN.