OT: Star Trek Movie (XI)

[Randallw]

You can see Spock here

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/34774

I'm also surprised at your "Romulus, my father" reference. I would have thought only Australians would know about it.


Harlan Ellison by the way is being a jerk about their plan to use one of his ideas. Great writer I gather, but a jerk. Mind you the original ST makers didn't know the difference between ruins and runes

[narf poit chez BOOM]

I tried going there, but there was an annoying, un-closeable advertisement.

[Randallw]

Sorry about that. Maybe I have it blocked. I'll put 2 of the pictures in my photobucket.

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i1...intoSpock1.jpg
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i1...intoSpock3.jpg

[AgentZero]

Are they up to 11 already? Jasus. I'll go see it though, just because it is Star Trek. I'm hoping and praying that they'll get back to the original spirit of TOS, without all that moral preachy bull**** that's frankly been ruining the series.

[Randallw]

I understand there are two camps to ST fans.

Those who prefer it to be clean, hopeful and free of modern day concerns.

and,

dark, where there are still lots of problems and you need to be sneaky, such as tricking another empire into joining a war on your side when you are at risk of losing.

I much prefer the later. Yeah I'm a political realist

People, who I have never really understood, seem to go on about whomever it was that took over after Gene Rodenberrys death ruining the franchise. There are a lot of things about Star Trek I disagree with, which I won't go into at the moment because I don't feel like going there, but I usually just don't let it bother me and I enjoy the special effects and occasional great episode.

We can, if you like, list our favourite episodes. For me

The two parter of Voyager with the ship that removes the target from time.
The Enterprise mirror episodes.
Any Klingon epsiode.

I like Enterprise despite the fact it didn't do, until too late, what it should have been from the start (season 3 was a major mistake). The whole run should have been season 4 stuff, but I don't let it bother me. I don't run the TV companies so why get depressed by what I don't control.

oh, and the Dominion war.

[AgentZero]

I do not like the clean, hopeful Star Trek. The whole, "Let's solve our problems with idealism! And technology!" attitude makes my channel-flicking finger very itchy. Well, I'm not entirely against the "let's solve our problems with technology" part, because it's sci-fi, so of course technology will play a part in it.

And coming up with some neat little gadget to solve a particular problem that we can look at and say, "Wow, that's cool," is good sci-fi technofantasy. Realigning the phase coil inductors is not.

Why not just say, "Well, Captain, what we're going to do, see, is load the magazines with bovine fecal matter, and fire it out the torpedo tubes. Oh look, the bovine fecal matter blew them up! Aren't we clever?" Because that, and realigning the phase coil inductors, is exactly the same damn thing.

[Randallw]

There's a Voyager epsiode where they fight the Borg. They fire the Phasers at the Borg. You know beam of light goes from Voyager to Borg ship then stays for a little bit too long. The Borg ship then pulsed back along the beam to Voyager. Cue sparks and such. Someone says

"What happened"
and 7 of 9 says
"They reversed the beam with a feed back pulse"

Is it really technobabble when that makes perfect sense? I mean the pulse goes back in the opposite direction and damages the emitters. Looks like a feedback pulse to me.

In fact it makes so much sense I would expect Star Fleet to plan against that tactic. Don't leave the Phaser beam in place so long, or use disruptors. Except that the disruptor beam would leave an ionisation trail and due to the need to align the disruptor pulse to pass through the ships shields that would leave a trail that could penetrate the shields in return.

[Renegade 13]

DS9 was great in the latter seasons, a la the Dominion Wars. Some of the best Trek that ever, I think.