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November 19th, 2007, 08:48 PM
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Re: An excerpt form Marignon
Yes Zeldor, please do not go AI.
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November 19th, 2007, 09:12 PM
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First Lieutenant
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Re: An excerpt form Marignon
I only just checked - my capital has no scale bonuses either, and that's prety painful.
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November 19th, 2007, 09:25 PM
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Re: An excerpt form Marignon
Heck, I just came in to commiserate that I just lost my epic hero to a really bad luck roll against some knights. Good to know others are sucking it up to. 
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November 20th, 2007, 09:21 PM
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Re: An excerpt form Marignon
I think we should congratulate Atlantis, it is probably them that killed Oceania. Fast.
Xietor:
I have read some manuals for R'lyeh and other nations too. Advice was to take Order 3 and some misfortune. I have tried some misfortune in other MP games [blitz ones] after that and I see that it is the worst choice you can do. Order 3 cannot even negate misfortune 1 effects. In 2 other games I lost lab in first turn and got 4 barbarians hordes in 2 turns.
And here I added my mistake caused by lack of knowledge on water nations and indies  I will see what I can do, but Atlantis seems to be really strong. And I am weaker than on turn 1.
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November 20th, 2007, 09:33 PM
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Re: An excerpt form Marignon
My experience has been that misfortune amplifies negative scales. So I would connect lost lab with misfortune + sloth, barbarian attacks with misfortune + turmoil. There are corresponding bad events for misfortune + death/cold. Not sure if there is for heat and drain.
But if you survive to mid game, the misfortune events are not as big a factor as they are capped at max of 4 per turn.
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November 20th, 2007, 09:59 PM
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Re: An excerpt form Marignon
I have taken bad scales-2 drain, 3 heat, 3 sloth. I refuse to take even 1 misfortune. With the scale bug you may end up with no order and misfortune. Very deadly in the early game.
Oceania is the 1st casualty of Epic Heroes II. He died a dominion death on turn 6. Atlantis is the suspect in converting the Oceanians to his faith.
Looks like the water is a 2 horse race now. But beware of Agartha, Shinuyama, or MA Ermor if they border the water!
All 3 of those nations can get into the water fairly easily.
Elephants cannot swim, so the water races are free from me!
And hang in there zeldor. With only 2 races in the water, you have a good chance. The Ryleh Epic Hero is quite brutal
when used correctly. Especially good at siege busting.
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November 20th, 2007, 10:05 PM
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Re: An excerpt form Marignon
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Xietor said:Elephants cannot swim, so the water races are free from me!
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Get a sea kings goblet and take your elephants underwater, they are awesome! I crushed a entire Argathian army once.
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Zeldor said:Order 3 cannot even negate misfortune 1 effects. In 2 other games I lost lab in first turn and got 4 barbarians hordes in 2 turns
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Order 3, misfortune 3 are a good combo, I have had it loads of times and always done very well. Your just really, really unlucky Zeldor!
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