No Kalevala references in Dom3?

[Edi]

The way I see it is very much like tka outlined above, but with a fairly big emphasis on summoned units. Low level, low quality in large quantity much like the Gana available to Lanka, with some more powerful but numerically fewer summons.

Relatively few recruitable troops. The commander ideas tka threw around would be fairly ideal. The Kalevala people would probably all have forestry too, or almost all of them. Väinämöinen, Louhi, Ilmarinen, Lemminkäinen and some of the other characters would make for a wide cast of heroes, but you'd need to have several hero dependent events. Väinämöinen and Lemminkäinen in same province would probably be detrimental to income and cause unrest, maybe also something else. Väinämöinen and Aino (Lemminkäinen's sister) in the same province = Aino dies. And so on and so forth.

But making a Kalevala nation would be VERY work intensive.

[Endoperez]

Not any more so than making an Arthurian myths based nation (MA Man). The traditional 3 witches, bards, knights and longbowmen, knights of the round table as knights of the stone, hints to the older myths of tuatha de danaan... Making a nation BASED on a myth is just as hard as you want it to be.

I'm not sure if Nature is even that necessary. Nature was respected, that's certain, but the spells use various asepcts of nature that the N path of Dominions doesn't cover that well. N2 would be enough for most of the stuff the heroes do, really - there's no Gift of Health, no great beasts such as Tarrasques, no walking forests... Well, Charm would be just about perfect. But I still think Earth should be more important. Joukahainen boasting about turning Väinämöinen and his clothes to metal (Petrification), Väinämöinen singing him into the bog (similar to Earth Meld), Destruction (Väinämöinen destroyed Joukahainen's equipment, transforming the bow into a rainbow, sword into a bolt of lightning, arrows into hawks, etc), and Construction in general.
Death would be another strong one, perhaps. Earth/Fire is quite common already.

I played with the idea a while ago. You could get special units from various parts of the poems, such as from the origin of iron (iron was found and told how it could serve the humans, and it agreed to be worked upon. it didn't like the fire, and when the water was prepared for hardening an evil creature bought poisons in the stead of honey a bee was supposed to bring, which made the iron mad and angry. that's why iron bites deep and why it's just as good for weapons as it's for tools). Weapons tempered to deal extra damage to magic beings, or just naturally poisonous. Ranger-type stealthy archer/infantry. Huskarls and Hirdmen.


I've got some sprites of white-clad furmen somewhere. Let's see if we can throw something together. Please, post all your ideas.

[tka]

Endoperez said:
But I still think Earth should be more important. Joukahainen boasting about turning Väinämöinen and his clothes to metal (Petrification), Väinämöinen singing him into the bog (similar to Earth Meld), Destruction (Väinämöinen destroyed Joukahainen's equipment, transforming the bow into a rainbow, sword into a bolt of lightning, arrows into hawks, etc), and Construction in general.
Death would be another strong one, perhaps. Earth/Fire is quite common already.

Very true, but I could also see those fitting nicely into nature category too. A matter of taste I suppose, both would work for me.

capqn said:Those examples sound like they could work in game as mercenaries, rather than nations.

Considering that Kalevala is all about getting wife, I bet that both Ilmarinen and Väinämöinen would work as mercenaries if you could pay in blood slaves instead.

[Aezeal]

As a complete novice on this I need to say this: it SOUNDS a lot like midgard/vanheim etc nations.. with other heroes...

are you all sure it's worth a mod..

well it's your time.. but couldn't you just make the rest of the warhammer nations first? (this is of course totally not influenced by any personal desires I have )