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Old November 28th, 2007, 08:55 AM

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Default Re: Another One Bites the Dust!

Also, it appears that I have a bug attached to the winter wolves summoned by my Yeti Epic Hero.

Twice now, the battle message did not coincide with the battle replay. In the first instance, my last remaining winter wolf was killed in the battle replay, but survived the message and in the strategic screen. The second time just this turn, my 3 winter wolves survived in the battle replay, but died in the battle report.

In the battle replay, they were left with 1, 2, and 4 hps. The only thing I can think of if this is not a bug, is that they have the ability "strength of winter". Is the hit point gain only a temporary effect during battle only?
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Old November 28th, 2007, 11:07 AM

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I am aware that you can wish for Epic Heroes. And given that you can wish for Seraphs, I am not sure any Epic Hero is tougher than a Seraph. In fact I am fairly certain none is better.

100 s gems is a high price for an Epic Hero.
The Kitchen Sink Mod raises the price of clamming, so there should be fewer surplus gems floating around this game.

As to the "replay" bug, I think Edi may be the one to ask. There is nothing unique about the Winter Wolves the Yeti summons. They are exactly the same as the ones you summon.

Replay bugs occurred in Epic Heroes 1 and in Alapca(Alpaca was a vanilla game except worthy heroes). In Alpaca it was a major battle between Llamabeast and Jay Thomas. Though i think it was a mistake, Llamabeast replayed the turn so that the battle occurred again, but that changed the result of battles for many other races that had no bugs.

Llamabeast had a theory that the server was using a different version of worthy heroes than 1 of the players. We should all be using Worthy Heroes 1.8. I will double check with Llamabeast to make sure the server is also using 1.8.

And when I inquired about it after EHI game, many posters said the replay bug occurs randomly-and has been a bug since domI.

I have cautioned players until I am blue in the face that solo Epic Heroes can be killed by indies. But many insist on rolling the dice. The dice are weighted in your favor-but they can all die to indies. The lightning mage indies can kill any epic hero-and fairly easily i might add.
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Old November 28th, 2007, 01:33 PM

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Yeah, I test played SP quickly and found that Beowulf normally cuts through your average indies but can come majorly unstuck against tramplers.
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Old November 28th, 2007, 01:43 PM
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The Eriu hero I ran 3 different test SP games and couldn't find an indie that fazed him. Turn 6 in the MP game though he took a lance to the face. *sigh* open ended die rolls....
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Immortal epic heroes are the way to go

especially the ones that are resistant to everything
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Old November 28th, 2007, 03:34 PM

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In my tests of Cathbad(eriu Hero), he only has 15 hps, though he is coded to have 18. Anyone have any thoughts as to the discrepancy?

Foodstamp created Cathbad, though i beefed him up a great deal with serpent, snake hair, armor, good fortune, and many other perks.

Cathbad is tough, but I would not try him against units with a charge bonus.

Arcos EH is decent, but there is no way i ever use him solo. He is a general of great ability-and that is wasted if he does not lead armies. But he is not designed to be a thug.

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"Immortal epic heroes are the way to go.

especially the ones that are resistant to everything."

True, but in some instances, immortals are always immortal. Especially if you use them in a province with only 1 candle of dominion!
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